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Old 01-07-2010, 07:15 AM   #1
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Question Tires loosing pressure

I've noticed my Camaro is loosing tire pressure on all tires. I've got the RS package. Someone at work said they read there is a problem with aluminium wheels not making as good a seal. Anyone heard about this or experiencing tire pressure lost.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:28 AM   #2
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I've always heard the cold will affect tire pressure with aluminium. I think it expands/contracts more than others. Mine didn't have anything happen before it got cold. I'm no expert though.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:32 AM   #3
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yeah, im sure its the weather. Its been real cold in our area. My tires were down to 27lbs the other day
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:32 AM   #4
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I had to inflate all four on mine last week...they dropped down to 27/28 lbs.

It's been COLD down here in Florida...
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:51 AM   #5
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You can try running nitrogen and the loss in pressure will not be as drastic but the others are right on the money with the cold.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:00 PM   #6
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I just added air yesterday when it was 37 out. It's 55 now and pressure is too high now...go figure. We shouldn't have to deal with these things here, what's next snow tires?
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:14 PM   #7
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9 inches of snow up here. My baby is parked in the heated garage.
The tires do loose air when it is cold. just keep them at cold pressure as they do go up and down.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:17 PM   #8
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I just added air yesterday when it was 37 out. It's 55 now and pressure is too high now...go figure. We shouldn't have to deal with these things here, what's next snow tires?
Tell me about it. Today I said enough and before leaving for work I dug out a winter coat that I have not had to wear in years in SW Georgia.



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Old 01-07-2010, 01:51 PM   #9
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cold weather does it every time to my car!
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:16 PM   #10
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same problem here in MS. dealer said the same and the weather was a cause
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:44 PM   #11
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Cold here in TX also and I lose about 2lbs pressure a week so far.
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:23 PM   #12
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#08-03-10-006B: Tire Slowly Goes Flat, Tire Air Loss, Low Tire Pressure Warning Light Illuminated, Aluminum Wheel Bead Seat Corrosion (Clean and Resurface Wheel Bead Seat) - (Dec 4, 2009)

Subject:Tire Slowly Goes Flat, Tire Air Loss, Low Tire Pressure Warning Light Illuminated, Aluminum Wheel Bead Seat Corrosion (Clean and Resurface Wheel Bead Seat)

Models:2000-2010 GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks (including Saturn)
2003-2010 HUMMER H2
2006-2010 HUMMER H3
2005-2009 Saab 9-7X


This bulletin is being reissued to add bulletin reference information for possible air leaks due to wheel porosity issues. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-03-10-006A (Section 03 - Suspension).
Do This
Don't Do This
Clean corrosion and resurface the wheel bead seat area.
Do not replace the wheel if it can be repaired within the guidelines below.
<A href="#ss1-2372207">Condition

Some customers may comment on a tire that slowly loses air pressure over a period of days or weeks.
<A href="#ss2-2372207">Cause

Abrasive elements in the environment may intrude between the tire and wheel at the bead seat. There is always some relative motion between the tire and wheel (when the vehicle is driven) and this motion may cause the abrasive particles to wear the wheel and tire materials. As the wear continues, there may also be intrusion at the tire/wheel interface by corrosive media from the environment. Eventually a path for air develops and a 'slow' leak may ensue. This corrosion may appear on the inboard or outboard bead seating surface of the wheel. This corrosion will not be visible until the tire is dismounted from the wheel.
Notice: This bulletin specifically addresses issues related to wheel bead seat corrosion that may result in an air leak. For issues related to porosity of the wheel casting that may result in an air leak, please refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-03-10-006E - Low Tire Pressure, Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels (Repair with Adhesive Sealant)
<A href="#ss3-2372207">Correction

In most cases, this type of air loss can be corrected by following the procedure below.
Important: DO NOT replace a wheel for slow air loss unless you have evaluated and/or tried to repair the wheel with the procedure below.
Notice: The repair is no longer advised or applicable for chromed aluminum wheels.
  1. Remove the wheel and tire assembly for diagnosis. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in SI.
  2. After a water dunk tank leak test, if you determine the source of the air leak to be around the bead seat of the wheel, dismount the tire to examine the bead seat. Shown below is a typical area of bead seat corrosion.<A href="#oth4-2372207">Typical Location of Bead Seat Corrosion




    Important: Other forms of slow air leaks are possible. If the body of the tire, valve stem and wheel flange show no signs of air seepage, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-03-10-003D for additional information on possible wheel porosity issues.
  3. Bead seat corrosion is identified by what appears like blistering of the wheel finish, causing a rough or uneven surface that is difficult for the tire to maintain a proper seal on. Below is a close-up photo of bead seat corrosion on an aluminum wheel that was sufficient to cause slow air loss.<A href="#oth5-2372207">Close-Up of Bead Seat Corrosion



  4. If corrosion is found on the wheel bead seat, measure the affected area as shown below.


    For vehicles with 32,186 km (20,000 mi) or less, the total allowable combined linear area of repairable corrosion is 100 mm (4 in) or less. If the total area(s) of corrosion exceed these dimensions, the wheel should be replaced.
    For vehicles that have exceeded 32,186 km (20,000 mi), the total allowable combined linear area of repairable corrosion is 200 mm (8 in) or less. If the total area(s) of corrosion exceed these dimensions, the wheel should be replaced.
  5. In order to correct the wheel leak, use a clean-up (fine cut) sanding disc or biscuit to remove the corrosion and any flaking paint. You should remove the corrosion back far enough until you reach material that is stable and firmly bonded to the wheel. Try to taper the edge of any flaking paint as best you can in order to avoid sharp edges that may increase the chance of a leak reoccurring. The photo below shows an acceptable repaired surface.Notice: Corrosion that extends up the lip of the wheel, where after the clean-up process it would be visible with the tire mounted, is only acceptable on the inboard flange. The inboard flange is not visible with the wheel assembly in the mounted position. If any loose coatings or corrosion extend to the visible surfaces on the FACE of the wheel, that wheel must be replaced.
    Important: Remove ONLY the material required to eliminate the corrosion from the bead seating surface. DO NOT remove excessive amounts of material. ALWAYS keep the sealing surface as smooth and level as possible.
    <A href="#oth6-2372207">Acceptably Prepared (Cleaned-Up) Wheel Surface



  6. Once the corrosion has been eliminated, you should coat the repaired area with a commercially available tire sealant such as Patch Brand Bead Sealant or equivalent. Commercially available bead sealants are black rubber-like coatings that will permanently fill and seal the resurfaced bead seat. At 21°C (70°F) ambient temperature, this sealant will set-up sufficiently for tire mounting in about 10 minutes.<A href="#oth7-2372207">Coated and Sealed Bead Seat



  7. Remount the tire and install the repaired wheel and tire assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in SI.
<A href="#ss8-2372207">Parts Information

Patch Brand Bead Sealer is available from Myers Tires at 1-800-998-9897 or on the web at www.myerstiresupply.com. The one-quart size can of sealer will repair about 20 wheels.
Part Number
Description
16118
Patch Bead Sealer (1 Quart)
<A href="#ss9-2372207">Warranty Information (excluding Saab U.S. Models)

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time
E9475*
Wheel, Bead Seat Repair (One)
0.6 hr
* This is a unique labor operation for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.
<A href="#ss10-2372207">Warranty Information (Saab U.S. Models)

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation
Description
Failed Object
Fault/Reason Code
Location Code
Warranty Type
Repair/Action Code
Labor Time
7711006*
Wheel, Bead Seat Repair (One)
77110
81
9
01
05
0.6 hr
* This is a unique labor operation for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the STM.
GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:25 PM   #13
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I will try to show picture, once I find out how.
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:44 PM   #14
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Picture of the problem area. Take to the dealer it is a easy fix, tell them the TSB number.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/u...517/Wheel1.gif

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