NEW Official Details on Camaro ZL1 -- 580hp / 556 lb-ft torque!!

[zadjaliz]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The 600 hp rumour was replaced by a 620 hp rumour several months ago. Which in turn was replaced by a 650 hp rumour. Which in turn was replaced by a 570 hp rumour. I have no clue what the latest rumour is for the 2013 GT500, but the problem with the GT500 has never been power. Its been traction. Sure, the ZL1 will be heavier but better weight distribution + wider tires + trick suspension + rigid chasis = better traction.

Oh, and GM said back in February that the ZL1 is getting 3:73's

Good to know. those 3.73's will wake up this car, we will see some really impressive numbers on the track (0-60, 1/4mile) IF this car doesn't weight too much.

Edit: whats the rev-limiter of the ZL1? I heard it's 6200rpm? if it's true I think this car will get to 60mph by shifting 3 gears which will definitely affect the 0-60 time negatively.

[casper sc/1ss/rs]

i heard 373s also but i think they need to go a hair higher not much but a little

[STS_CHILLER]

YOU SAID IT!
DOES IT COME EQUIPT FOR HIGHWAY PATROL?
LOL

By the way where are the HOLDEN cop cars they are or were importing? I haven’t seen any in FL, do see more TAHOES being used by police and FHP

[b4z]

Originally Posted by rez333

2011 GT500 is faster than the CTS-V with MRC and IRS. Heck the Boss with less HP and no MRC and no IRS is faster than the CTS-V.

I don't know why people persist on being ignorant about the supposed benefits of IRS and MRC. MRC doesn't improve performance - it just makes the ride more comfortable. Cars with regular racing suspension perform better than MRC. Case in point: Nissan GT-R.

I think you're stuck on acceleration and not the total package.
Regardless of whether one is a tenth or two faster than the other the Camaro is the far more sophisticated and rigid chassis.
And we haven't even talked about looks yet. LOL.

[b4z]

Originally Posted by casper sc/1ss/rs

i heard 373s also but i think they need to go a hair higher not much but a little

3.73s are good but keep in mind that redline is only 6200rpms.
I've heard rumors that GM is going to take out the .57 6th gear and putin the taller .50 6th that they used to use in '90s and early '00s in the 4th gens and Corvettes.
With all the tq the car has it can certainly pull a .50 gear and hwy rpms will be 7% less.

[Tob]

Originally Posted by hv92

I'm just sayin'....

Just rebuttin'....




Ouch!

[SVT_SRT]

cts-v won their (first vid) cause of traction,The gt500 just needs wider tires and it would be a much better car. look at trap speeds.

[SVT_SRT]

Originally Posted by Tob

Just rebuttin'....




Ouch!

the roll race between the two starts at 2:28

[PQ]

Some of these private car vs car vids are stupid. No way to know if one is moded or not. OR moded beyond what's stated.

[EVoLGRiMM]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Oh wait wut???? Do I know you??????

Nope I'm new here but I have have been to your "house"

[2012ZL1]

Originally Posted by Tob

Just rebuttin'....




Ouch!

HAHAHAHAHA nice try buddy, an independant non bias comparison vs a bias crapstang aftermarket company comparison.

[blufin]

Originally Posted by zadjaliz

Good to know. those 3.73's will wake up this car, we will see some really impressive numbers on the track (0-60, 1/4mile) IF this car doesn't weight too much.

Edit: whats the rev-limiter of the ZL1? I heard it's 6200rpm? if it's true I think this car will get to 60mph by shifting 3 gears which will definitely affect the 0-60 time negatively.

Its not gonna take 3 gears to hit 60. My stock SS will hit 53mph in 1st gear alone.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by zadjaliz

Good to know. those 3.73's will wake up this car, we will see some really impressive numbers on the track (0-60, 1/4mile) IF this car doesn't weight too much.

Edit: whats the rev-limiter of the ZL1? I heard it's 6200rpm? if it's true I think this car will get to 60mph by shifting 3 gears which will definitely affect the 0-60 time negatively.

There should be no reason to shift three gears!! Two...like usual.

I did the math quick, a 6000-rpm shift point will take the car to 51mph in first, then shift down to 4000 rpm in second and pull up to 60mph at 4700 rpm. Which is pretty cool, actually, because second gear @ 45-51mph will drop you right into the peak of the LSA's torque curve.

Originally Posted by b4z

3.73s are good but keep in mind that redline is only 6200rpms.
I've heard rumors that GM is going to take out the .57 6th gear and putin the taller .50 6th that they used to use in '90s and early '00s in the 4th gens and Corvettes.
With all the tq the car has it can certainly pull a .50 gear and hwy rpms will be 7% less.

They did this with the ZR1 to improve it's hwy mpg figure. Went from 20 to 22, iirc. If team Camaro is seriously looking to avoid the GG tax, this is an effective path to take, imo...

Originally Posted by 2012ZL1

HAHAHAHAHA nice try buddy, an independant non bias comparison vs a bias crapstang aftermarket company comparison.

Be nice......

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by zadjaliz

The GT500 is getting a face lift for (2013) with rumored 600hp, GM should make this ZL1 as light as possible, maybe an optional short gears ratio (3.73's) , then it will be a KILLER machine, these will make it a much better performance car for sure! They still got time to do these stuff, so they better get it right from the first time.We want this car to be a GT500 killer no matter what shelby comes out with.


I hope GM is listening.

Ive seen the new stang, Ford did make the rear of the Mustang better but the front is ugly.