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bmbbl be · 04-13-2013, 11:31 AM

my set on my L99... 582rwhp 521 tq

Maggie 3.6 pulley
cam
headers
roto-fab cai
60lb injectors zl1 fuel pump
tuned by livernois

ADM PERFORMANCE · 04-13-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lincoln361

Yeah i am thinking a Rotofab Cai with the adm scoop. Im not sure wether to get a smaller size pulley maybe a 3.6 or get the OD Cog drive. I just put on the 1:1 cog drive so i can here the whine, i dont think i want to take that out. But changing out the pulley would be just as good right? Plus i had 22s while i was on the dyno so i know that hurt my numbers as well. Thanks for your response

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jhiiidoc · 04-14-2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxx03

It's a dynojet but I believe since they just moved into a new shop and got a new dyno it's a eddy current loaded version.

What does an eddy current version do?

Mr. Nasty · 04-14-2013, 04:47 PM

Not to cut in on the op post. But why the big difference on the dyno? 50HP is a lot.

Kronix · 04-16-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nasty

Not to cut in on the op post. But why the big difference on the dyno? 50HP is a lot.

Dynos just perform differently. Some are just more conservative on bigger HP builds (Mustang). I ran a 663 on a Mustang & 716 on a Dynojet.

2010SSRSM6 · 04-16-2013, 11:51 AM

There are a ton of things that can affect the output on the dyno. Temp, humidity, calibration on the dyno, where its setup on the rollers, the break hanging up on the wheel, operator error, the list goes on and on.

Like Kronix said, different dynos read much differently. As long as you are not going lean, I wouldn't worry about the numbers. I put down 622rwhp on one dyno in 108* heat and then did 658rwhp on a 73* day, on a different dyno with no changes being made to the car.

Do you have a copy of the graph? Was it choppy or smooth? What smoothing factor did they use? You could have had wheel spin on the dyno that gave you artificially low numbers too.

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casper sc/1ss/rs · 04-16-2013, 12:01 PM

i get 21mpg on the highway with 411 gears, if you are just getting 16 on the highway that dont seem right but if it was city/highway driving thats about right.

Mr. Nasty · 04-16-2013, 05:09 PM

On the mustang dyno 587 and its a straight line 525tq 3500rpm and holds level. It was dyno twice bolt times was warm and humid. I know its running rich only 11.9 mpg. Wished I had the OP 16mpg.

UNRIVALED SS · 04-16-2013, 05:47 PM

When you change intake or exhaust components you will need a tune. The effects of those components are magnified when running a supercharger. Your cars tune is fine. I'm sure Lethal did a great job on it. Those 22" wheels and stock air box are what's bringing down your numbers on the dyno. Enjoy the power increase, when you're ready for more add some components. Jannetty will retune if you buy from him. If you're concerned about tunes every time you make changes . That's the best deal going.

lincoln361 · 04-16-2013, 09:56 PM

This the dyno sheet I was given. It looks a little choppy now that I am noticing it

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010SSRSM6

There are a ton of things that can affect the output on the dyno. Temp, humidity, calibration on the dyno, where its setup on the rollers, the break hanging up on the wheel, operator error, the list goes on and on.

Like Kronix said, different dynos read much differently. As long as you are not going lean, I wouldn't worry about the numbers. I put down 622rwhp on one dyno in 108* heat and then did 658rwhp on a 73* day, on a different dyno with no changes being made to the car.

Do you have a copy of the graph? Was it choppy or smooth? What smoothing factor did they use? You could have had wheel spin on the dyno that gave you artificially low numbers too.

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driyac · 04-16-2013, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lincoln361

This the dyno sheet I was given. It looks a little choppy now that I am noticing it

I am not a tune expert but all that choppyness is knock and knock kills power.

Those guys suck at tuning plain and simple. That is the ugliest graph ive seen in a while.

sucks man. get someone down there in texas to do a really good tune for you.

Mr. Nasty · 04-17-2013, 06:52 AM

why does the tq fall off is it because its a M6? Mine hits 525 at 3600 rpm and holds level throw the dyno

lincoln361 · 04-17-2013, 08:41 AM

L99

lincoln361 · 04-17-2013, 08:42 AM

You know anybody

QUOTE=driyac;6432877]I am not a tune expert but all that choppyness is knock and knock kills power.

Those guys suck at tuning plain and simple. That is the ugliest graph ive seen in a while.

sucks man. get someone down there in texas to do a really good tune for you.[/QUOTE]

04-14-2013, 04:47 PM	#32
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	Not to cut in on the op post. But why the big difference on the dyno? 50HP is a lot. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

04-16-2013, 11:51 AM	#34
2010SSRSM6 Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 6,558 View My Garage	There are a ton of things that can affect the output on the dyno. Temp, humidity, calibration on the dyno, where its setup on the rollers, the break hanging up on the wheel, operator error, the list goes on and on. Like Kronix said, different dynos read much differently. As long as you are not going lean, I wouldn't worry about the numbers. I put down 622rwhp on one dyno in 108* heat and then did 658rwhp on a 73* day, on a different dyno with no changes being made to the car. Do you have a copy of the graph? Was it choppy or smooth? What smoothing factor did they use? You could have had wheel spin on the dyno that gave you artificially low numbers too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION......again......

04-16-2013, 05:09 PM	#36
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	On the mustang dyno 587 and its a straight line 525tq 3500rpm and holds level. It was dyno twice bolt times was warm and humid. I know its running rich only 11.9 mpg. Wished I had the OP 16mpg. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

04-17-2013, 06:52 AM	#40
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	why does the tq fall off is it because its a M6? Mine hits 525 at 3600 rpm and holds level throw the dyno __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

04-13-2013, 11:31 AM	#29
bmbbl be Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ohio Posts: 1,360	my set on my L99... 582rwhp 521 tq Maggie 3.6 pulley cam headers roto-fab cai 60lb injectors zl1 fuel pump tuned by livernois

04-16-2013, 12:01 PM	#35
casper sc/1ss/rs Drives: 2011 camaro ss vortech supercharged Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: marion VA. Posts: 524 View My Garage	i get 21mpg on the highway with 411 gears, if you are just getting 16 on the highway that dont seem right but if it was city/highway driving thats about right.

04-16-2013, 05:47 PM	#37
UNRIVALED SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: El Paso Posts: 704 View My Garage	When you change intake or exhaust components you will need a tune. The effects of those components are magnified when running a supercharger. Your cars tune is fine. I'm sure Lethal did a great job on it. Those 22" wheels and stock air box are what's bringing down your numbers on the dyno. Enjoy the power increase, when you're ready for more add some components. Jannetty will retune if you buy from him. If you're concerned about tunes every time you make changes . That's the best deal going.

04-17-2013, 08:41 AM	#41
lincoln361 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: corpus christi tx Posts: 1,046 View My Garage	L99

04-17-2013, 08:42 AM	#42
lincoln361 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: corpus christi tx Posts: 1,046 View My Garage	You know anybody QUOTE=driyac;6432877]I am not a tune expert but all that choppyness is knock and knock kills power. Those guys suck at tuning plain and simple. That is the ugliest graph ive seen in a while. sucks man. get someone down there in texas to do a really good tune for you.[/QUOTE]