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Old 11-01-2016, 05:14 PM   #15
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Just as something to compare to. I have a cam, Headers, ZL1 fuel pump and CAI. Nitrous Outlet 150 shot tuned by ETMC and made 628 whp and 676 wtQ. 900 is a long ways away.
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:53 AM   #16
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628 is a strong combo! I agree once again. 900 is an amazing amount of power from 416 on a 250 shot without any other help. It's tough to make 900 on any type of combination. Turbo motors seem to be able to get there the most often but I Hard my ever hear about nitrous motors running at that level. Especially ones that drive on the streeet. NO2 is a great cost effective way to make power. There aren't a lot of superchargers that can get you to 900 either. That's just a tremendous amount of power.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:25 PM   #17
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Warhorse ! Nice work there! If you don't mind I would like some details. I like the very clean look of the setup you have there. I would also like to know how the PATC trans is treating you at whatever power level you are at.

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Hopefully, 21st Century Muscle Cars (performs all my work) will find time to start install this week.

This is my second built PATC freshened up with new clutches. Very pleased with first build which included all hard parts available and probably lasted 20K plus hard miles with mods in sig below. Total build is tuned and setup for heavy a** strictly street car preferred 1/8 mile at a time.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:17 PM   #18
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I LIKE IT ! That's a max effort build and you haven't abandoned the TVS 2300. We shooting for 1000 on this? You Texas guys know how to do it! Can't wait to see how well it works. Nice touch with the heavy a** street car!
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:53 PM   #19
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I LIKE IT ! That's a max effort build and you haven't abandoned the TVS 2300. We shooting for 1000 on this? You Texas guys know how to do it! Can't wait to see how well it works. Nice touch with the heavy a** street car!
I was spraying right at 200 shot with my throttle body plate system with old 416 setup and blower speed maxed out. Probably a little over 1K with it but never hit rollers with that amount of juice. Started pushing a little water on spray and after further inspection found egg shape cylinders and elongated lifter bores. Think we found limits of aluminum block.

New build with better ring sealing, more clamping ability, much higher flowing heads, larger cam, and direct port working up to 250 shot I hope to be well over previous. I guess we will see
This build was originally going to incorporate an F1x in lieu of the direct port but that would require different trans, gears and torque converter. The F1x may still come later if I'm not happy but I hope to buy a little time to digest this build.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:53 PM   #20
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Awesome effort and a great example of making creative power "with what you have". I'm also curious about block selection since you were stretching the aluminum LS3 like a rubber band from the sound of it.
One more. I'm assuming you worked up to this level. Any tips based on experience with running around a 100 shot from the plate. Not crazy boost. I want to sneak up on it and try to keep everything happy.

Thanks for the great info sharing. If I get out to Dallas I'd love to see the car run sometime. Don't know when I'll have time but I will eventually.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:44 PM   #21
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2012 Camaro ZL1 Black Coupe - 800+ RWHP (Nitrous, 93 octane)
Mike Norris tune 753 rear wheel horsepower, 690 foot pounds of torque (60 HP Nitrous Jets and 6,000 Redline)
Upgraded to 100 HP Jets and 6,700 Redline after tune, so over 800 HP now
Yellow curve was run without Nitrous; it was 698 HP and 641 torque
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Old 05-04-2019, 10:26 AM   #22
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Nice to see this thread being revived.

How many out there are running nitrous through a supercharger? I’m starting to believe that this is the way to go. You can run a strong street car with plenty of power and when you need to really run a max effort to race, you can instantly increase the power substantially.

Thoughts?
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:16 PM   #23
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Most I've seen with my own eyes was 695rwhp on a cammed 376 LS3 and 250shot. Was running a separate race gas cell when on the nitrous hit.
Dude has something wrong with those numbers unless he has a baby cam

On sbe I’m mkaing just over 700 on 200 shot
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Nice to see this thread being revived.

How many out there are running nitrous through a supercharger? I’m starting to believe that this is the way to go. You can run a strong street car with plenty of power and when you need to really run a max effort to race, you can instantly increase the power substantially.

Thoughts?
Just my opinion,
If you can obtain your goals with one power adder, it is probably the best least complicated way to go. All power adders have there own unique pro's and con's. Adding nitrous to any of the forced induction systems may be the answer to some as it was in my case. Nitrous requires its on special attention to details and combining both requires the ability or necessity of constant tuning. If you enjoy and or willing to dedicate to that kind of challenge, you could be a "happy camper".
Neglecting the "special attention" portion of the equation could lead to disappointment.
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Well Said!

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Just my opinion,
If you can obtain your goals with one power adder, it is probably the best least complicated way to go. All power adders have there own unique pro's and con's. Adding nitrous to any of the forced induction systems may be the answer to some as it was in my case. Nitrous requires its on special attention to details and combining both requires the ability or necessity of constant tuning. If you enjoy and or willing to dedicate to that kind of challenge, you could be a "happy camper".
Neglecting the "special attention" portion of the equation could lead to disappointment.
Indeed. I believe there is a common perception that there is a way to build massive HP, just run it and never adjust for conditions or raise the hood. This is especially true running nitrous applications. I have seen, on this forum alone, some of the most absurd ideas be stated as gospel truth. Things that work under one set of conditions, are a disaster in others.

I certainly appreciate the gravity of your statement.
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Old 05-11-2019, 03:58 PM   #26
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Fuel System ?

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2012 Camaro ZL1 Black Coupe - 800+ RWHP (Nitrous, 93 octane)
Mike Norris tune 753 rear wheel horsepower, 690 foot pounds of torque (60 HP Nitrous Jets and 6,000 Redline)
Upgraded to 100 HP Jets and 6,700 Redline after tune, so over 800 HP now
Yellow curve was run without Nitrous; it was 698 HP and 641 torque
All numbers and times are with 93 octane

10.915 quarter mile at 127.26 mph with Hoosier Drag Slicks 28x10-17 D06
154 MPH Half Mile (60 HP Jets) with M&H Racemaster Drag Radials ROD-20 325/45-17

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Lingenfelter Intercooler, Reservoir and Fuel Pump Booster
Ron Davis ZL1 Heat Exchanger
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I looked back at your posting a little closer and I have a couple questions on what you`re running.

I see a fuel pump booster. You are running over 800 on nitrous with the ZL1 pump and booster with 850 injectors? I think it's ok, I just usually see more. Curious how that works out and if there is any "creative" tuning involved to make it work.

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Old 05-25-2019, 07:25 PM   #27
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I made 790/940 on 250 shot through a a low compression 416. Manual car stock ported heads and rod mod intake.
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Nice to see this thread being revived.

How many out there are running nitrous through a supercharger? I’m starting to believe that this is the way to go. You can run a strong street car with plenty of power and when you need to really run a max effort to race, you can instantly increase the power substantially.
Yes haven't checked in for quite along time. I totally ditched the Nitrous just over a year ago and went Centrifugal with a D1X and other stuff.Still running lower Boost and Conservative Tune which is more than enough on the Street imho here anyway.
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