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Old 09-25-2009, 11:52 PM   #1
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Thumbs up We need help with Electronics wiring diagrams

We need to see if we can get the Electronics wiring diagrams & connector information for the Camaro and the corvette, For the use of putting in a push button start on the Camaro so if any one knows or has the schematics we need it.
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Old 09-26-2009, 07:25 AM   #2
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Right now its going to be extremly difficult to do a push button start. The key is a radio frequency key. Meaning the key needs to be be within an inch of the key cylinder for the car to read that it is the proper key to start the car. As of right now there is no way to do a aftermarket remote start alarm properly. Even though my car has remote start from gm I can't do an alarm upgrade with remote start. Sux. Once the alarm companies figure out the programing then it will be possible. I would hold off even after that for a little while so that it bugs can be worked out. There are always issues with the alarm modules when they first come out. So let someone else be the guinea pig.
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:35 AM   #3
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Right now its going to be extremly difficult to do a push button start. The key is a radio frequency key. Meaning the key needs to be be within an inch of the key cylinder for the car to read that it is the proper key to start the car. As of right now there is no way to do a aftermarket remote start alarm properly. Even though my car has remote start from gm I can't do an alarm upgrade with remote start. Sux. Once the alarm companies figure out the programing then it will be possible. I would hold off even after that for a little while so that it bugs can be worked out. There are always issues with the alarm modules when they first come out. So let someone else be the guinea pig.
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:56 AM   #4
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Remote Start, Security, Keyless Entry, Accessories
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
12 Volts red/black (100A) + dash fuse box, 48 pin plug, pin 28
Second 12 Volts red/white (x3) (30A each) + BCM, white plug, pins 2, 3 and lt. blu plug, pin 4
Starter purple (not for remote start) + starter or underhood fuse box, 50 pin plug X3, pin 4
Second Starter pink +9.6K ohms ignition switch or BCM, lt. green plug, pin 15
Ignition pink + ignition switch or BCM, lt. green plug, pin 6
Second Ignition N/A
Third Ignition N/A
Accessory brown + ignition switch or BCM, lt. green plug, pin 5
Second Accessory same as second starter +6.3K ohms
Third Accessory N/A
Keysense same as second starter
Data Bus pink (resistor code), white/black (5V reference) mux ignition switch or BCM, lt. green plug, pins 15 and 22
Can Bus High N/A
Can Bus Low N/A
Can Bus Sw dk. green (low speed GMLAN) data data link conn, blk 16 pin plug, pin 1 or BCM, lt. blue plug, pin 22
Power Lock pink/black - radio, 18 pin plug, pin 12 or BCM, lt. blue plug, pin 19
Power Unlock orange/black - radio, 18 pin plug, pin 13 or BCM, lt. blue plug, pin 15
Lock Motor gray 5 wire driver kick or BCM, pink plug, pin 1
Driver Unlock Motor tan 5 wire driver kick or BCM, pink plug, pin 4
Passenger Unlock Motor
Parking Lights (-) lt. blue - headlight switch or BCM, white plug, pin 22
Parking Lights (+) purple (LF), brown/white (RF) + BCM, black plug, pins 6 and 5
Hazards white - radio, 18 pin plug, pin 16 or BCM, lt. blue plug, pin 26
Turn Signal (Left) lt. blue/white (F), yellow/black (R) + BCM, brown plug, pins 2 and 1
Turn Signal (Right) dk. blue/white (F), dk. green/white (R) + BCM, black plug, pins 3 and 4
Headlight white (also need to trigger parking lights (-)) - headlight switch or BCM, white plug, pin 16
AutoLights dk. green (ground to turn off autolights) - headlight switch or BCM, white plug, pin 11
Reverse Light lt. green + driver kick or BCM, gray plug, pin 3
Left Front Door Trigger gray/black - driver window motor, black 7 pin plug, pin 6
Right Front Door Trigger tan/white - passenger window motor, black 7 pin plug, pin 6
Left Rear Door Trigger N/A
Right Rear Door Trigger N/A
Remote Start, Security, Keyless Entry, Accessories (Continued)
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
Dome Supervision gray + passenger kick or BCM, gray plug, pin 1
Trunk/Hatch Pin pink/black - passenger kick or BCM, pink plug, pin 5
Rear Glass Pin N/A
Hood Pin pink/black - hood switch or BCM, black plug, pin 24
Trunk/Hatch Release dk. blue - driver kick or BCM, pink plug, pin 14
Trunk Release Motor lt. blue + driver kick or dash fuse box, 48 pin plug, pin 25
Fuel Door Release N/A
Power Sliding Door (Left) N/A
Power Sliding Door (Right) N/A
Factory Alarm Arm arms on lock with door open
Factory Alarm Disarm factory remote only
Disarm No Unlock Passkey and ignition
Trunk Alarm Shunt N/A
Tachometer NOT pink/black (V8) ac any fuel injector
Wait to Start N/A
Neutral Safety N/A
Clutch Pedal yellow - 180 ohms clutch switch, black 3 pin plug, pin B
Fuel Pump pink + passenger kick, harness to rear
Rear Defroster white + latched passenger kick or HVAC Control Module, brown plug, pin 19
Mirror Defroster same as rear defroster
Left Front Heated Seat dk. blue + Heated Seat Control Module, plug X2, pin 3
Right Front Heated Seat dk. blue + Heated Seat Control Module, plug X2, pin 5
Speed Sense gray/black (manual transmission only) ac ECM, 58 pin plug X2, pin 43 (V6), 73 pin plug X1, pin 71 (V8)
Brake Wire white + driver kick or BCM, black plug, pin 11
Parking Brake lt. blue - driver kick or BCM, white plug, pin 10
Horn Trigger lt. green/white to tan - horn switch or BCM, brown plug, pin 19
Wipers gray + BCM, black plug, pin 16
Left Front Window (Up/Down) tan - gray (with ignition on only) - driver window switch, gray 8 pin plug, pins 5 and 3
Right Front Window (Up/Down) lt. blue - tan (with ignition on only) - driver kick or driver window switch, gray 8 pin plug, pins 8 and 7
Left Rear Window (Up/Down) N/A
Right Rear Window (Up/Down) N/A
Sun Roof (Open/Close) lt. blue (with ignition on only) - resistor sunroof switch, black 4 pin plug, pin 4
Sun Roof (Limit/Close) N/A
Memory Seat 1 N/A
Memory Seat 2 N/A
Memory Seat 3 N/A
Audio
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
Radio 12V red/white + radio, black 44 pin plug, pin 44
Radio Ground black - radio, black 44 pin plug, pin 38
Radio Ignition (low speed GMLAN)
Radio Illumination (low speed GMLAN)
Factory Amp Turn-on white + radio, black 44 pin plug, pin 43
Power Antenna N/A
Left Front Speaker (+/-) tan - gray or tan - dk. green +,- radio, black 44 pin plug, pins 40 and 32
Right Front Speaker (+/-) lt. green - dk. green or lt. grn/wht - org/blk +,- radio, black 44 pin plug, pins 39 and 31
Left Rear Speaker (+/-) brown - yellow or brown/white - brown +,- radio, black 44 pin plug, pins 42 and 34
Right Rear Speaker (+/-) dk. blue - lt. blue or dk. blue - tan +,- radio, black 44 pin plug, pins 41 and 33
Center Channel (+/-) yellow - lt. blue +,- amplifier, black 16 pin plug X2, pins 4 and 3
Subwoofer (+/-) N/A
Aux. Audio Input Left (+/-) yellow - dk. green/white (common) +,- radio, black 44 pin plug, pins 24 and 23
Aux. Audio Input Right (+/-) tan/white - dk. green/white (common) +,- radio, black 44 pin plug, pins 10 and 23
RSE Video (+/-) N/A
RSE Audio Left (+/-) N/A
RSE Audio Right (+/-) N/A
Satellite Radio 12 Volts N/A
Satellite Radio Ground N/A
Satellite Radio Ignition N/A
Satellite Radio Antenna N/A
Satellite Audio Left (+/-) N/A
Satellite Audio Right (+/-) N/A
What Fits
Item Size Depth Location
Headunit irregular center of dash
Left Front Speaker left front door
Left Front Tweeter left front door
Right Front Speaker right front door
Right Front Tweeter right front door
Left Rear Speaker left rear deck
Left Rear Tweeter left rear deck
Right Rear Speaker right rear deck
Right Rear Tweeter right rear deck
Center Channel top center of dash
Subwoofer N/A
Left Front Headrest
Right Front Headrest
Left Rear Headrest
Right Rear Headrest
Satellite Radio Tuner (built into radio)
Wiring Photo and Notes: Second 12 Volts
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:59 AM   #5
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Old 09-29-2009, 12:41 PM   #6
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:50 PM   #7
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Yes but i am looking for the Electronics wiring diagrams like this
but can i get it for all the wiring of the car, And the 08or 09 vett
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:33 PM   #8
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Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location

12 Volts red/black (60A) + dash fuse box, black 36 pin plug, pin B7

Second 12 Volts red/black (60A) + BCM, red 41 pin plug (X3), pin D1

Starter purple (not for remote start) + starter or underhood fuse box, gray 68 pin plug, pin F12

Second Starter lt. green/white and lt. green (push-button start) 1511 ohms ignition mode switch, white 10 pin plug, pins E and F

Ignition pink (not for remote start) + BCM, red 41 pin plug (X3), pin C5

Second Ignition N/A

Third Ignition N/A

Accessory yellow (not for remote start) + low curr BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 22

Second Accessory N/A

Third Accessory N/A

Keysense N/A

Data Bus purple to lt. green (J1850 Class 2 Serial Data) data data link conn, blk 16 pin plg, pin2 or BCM, gry 72 pin plg (X1), pin55

Can Bus High N/A

Can Bus Low N/A

Can Bus Sw N/A

Power Lock orange/black - driver door lock switch, black 5 pin plug, pin D

Power Unlock orange/black - driver door lock switch, black 5 pin plug, pin E

Lock Motor (uses power door latch, no door lock motor)

Driver Unlock Motor (uses power door latch, no door lock motor)

Passenger Unlock Motor (uses power door latch, no door lock motor)

Parking Lights (-) brown/white - headlight switch or BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X2), pin 5

Parking Lights (+) brown + passenger kick, harness to rear

Hazards tan - hazard switch or BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X2), pin 9

Turn Signal (Left) lt. blue/white (F); yellow (R) + BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 38; red 41 pin plug (X3), pin A9

Turn Signal (Right) dk. blue/white (F); dk. green (R) + BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 56; red 41 pin plug (X3), pin A12

Headlight white - headlight switch or BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X2), pin 15

AutoLights lt. blue (ground to turn off autolights) - headlight sw or BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X2), pin 17

Reverse Light lt. green + BCM, red 41 pin plug (X3), pin D9

Left Front Door Trigger gray/black (ajar), tan (open) - BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pins 51 and 44

Right Front Door Trigger tan/white - BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 53

Left Rear Door Trigger N/A

Right Rear Door Trigger N/A


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Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location

Dome Supervision white - BCM, red 41 pin plug (X3), pin A10

Trunk/Hatch Pin orange/black - BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 18

Rear Glass Pin N/A

Hood Pin pink/black - hood switch or BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 69

Trunk/Hatch Release brown/white - release switch or BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 71

Trunk Release Motor motor part of module

Fuel Door Release white - release switch or dash relay box, black 30 pin plug, pin C6

Power Sliding Door (Left) brown and orange (driver door latch release) - driver interior door handle switch, black 4 pin plug, pins C and B

Power Sliding Door (Right) gray and purple (passenger door latch release) - pass interior dr handle sw, bk 4 pin plg, pins C,B

Factory Alarm Arm factory remote only

Factory Alarm Disarm factory remote only

Disarm No Unlock proximity key and push-button start

Trunk Alarm Shunt N/A

Tachometer white ac instrument cluster, lt. gray 16 pin plug, pin 5

Wait to Start N/A

Neutral Safety N/A

Clutch Pedal dk. blue - resistor clutch switch, black 3 pin plug, pin B

Fuel Pump gray + underhood fuse box, gray 68 pin plug, pin A6

Rear Defroster white - latched HVAC Control Module, black 16 pin plug, pin A1

Mirror Defroster orange (L); orange (R) + latched DDM, black 29 pin plug, pin 12; FPDM, black 29 pin plug, pin 2

Left Front Heated Seat pink - driver heated seat switch, gray 6 pin plug, pin 4

Right Front Heated Seat pink/black - passenger heated seat switch, black 6 pin plug, pin 4

Speed Sense dk. green/white ac radio, black 12 pin plug, pin D (some models only)

Brake Wire lt. blue + passenger kick, harness to rear or BCM, gry 68 pin plg (X4), pin D4

Parking Brake lt. blue - parking brake switch or instrument cluster, lt. gray 16 pin plug, pin 15

Horn Trigger yellow to tan - horn switch or BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X2), pin 14

Wipers gray + BCM, gray 72 pin plug (X1), pin 40

Left Front Window (Up/Down) motor part of module

Right Front Window (Up/Down) motor part of module

Left Rear Window (Up/Down) N/A

Right Rear Window (Up/Down) N/A

Sun Roof (Open/Close) purple - gray (folding top) (with ign on only) + folding top control switch, black 6 pin plug, pins 2 and 5

Sun Roof (Limit/Close) N/A

Memory Seat 1 white - memory seat switch, black 4 pin plug, pin A

Memory Seat 2 purple - memory seat switch, black 4 pin plug, pin B

Memory Seat 3 N/A


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Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location

Radio 12V red/white + radio, gray 24 pin plug, pin B1

Radio Ground black/white - radio, gray 24 pin plug, pin A12

Radio Ignition (Class 2 Serial Data)

Radio Illumination (Class 2 Serial Data)

Factory Amp Turn-on same as power antenna

Power Antenna white + radio, gray 24 pin plug, pin B3

Left Front Speaker (+/-) tan - dk. green (low level audio) +,- radio, gray 24 pin plug, pins A8 and A9

Right Front Speaker (+/-) dk. green - lt. green (low level audio) +,- radio, gray 24 pin plug, pins B11 and B10

Left Rear Speaker (+/-) brown/white - brown (low level audio) +,- radio, gray 24 pin plug, pins B8 and B9

Right Rear Speaker (+/-) dk. blue - tan (low level audio) +,- radio, gray 24 pin plug, pins A11 and A10

Center Channel (+/-) yellow - lt. blue +,- amplifier, gray 8 pin plug, pins G and H

Subwoofer (+/-) tan - gray (L), lt. green - dk. green (R) +,- amplifier, gray 8 pin plug, pins D and C (L), A and B (R)

Aux. Audio Input Left (+/-) N/A

Aux. Audio Input Right (+/-) N/A

RSE Video (+/-) N/A

RSE Audio Left (+/-) N/A

RSE Audio Right (+/-) N/A

Satellite Radio 12 Volts red/white + Digital Radio Receiver, black 16 pin plug, pin 16

Satellite Radio Ground black/white - Digital Radio Receiver, black 16 pin plug, pin 9

Satellite Radio Ignition (Class 2 Serial Data)

Satellite Radio Antenna (coaxial cable)

Satellite Audio Left (+/-) brown/white - tan/white (common) +,- Digital Radio Receiver, blk 16 pin plg, pins 2, 10

Satellite Audio Right (+/-) dk. green/white - tan/white (common) +,- Digital Radio Receiver, blk 16 pin plg, pins 3, 10
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:20 PM   #9
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:23 AM   #10
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This still doesn't really answer my question of RF or resistence. Do you know someone at a dealership that gave you these docs? If so ask him if the key is RF or is the key a resistence based keysense. If it is resistence based that can be bypassed. The only problem is bypassing it means no key required to start.
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:51 PM   #11
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There are two ways to put in remote start with or without an auto-transmission. The "wrong" way is to have a key up under dash so that it still gets it signal when using the remote start. Alarm companies now have a bypass that copies the signal from your key and retains it for auto start. It is another relay but not difficult for a professional to install. The biggest thing to remember is that if you have a manual, the clutch switch is bypassed so if the car is in gear, you will tear up your starter/transmission if the remote start is activated. Searching the internet and you can find the key bypass.
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:58 PM   #12
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Factory Alarm Disarm factory remote only
Disarm No Unlock Passkey and ignition
Trunk Alarm Shunt N/A
Tachometer NOT pink/black (V8) ac any fuel injector
Wait to Start N/A

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