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rtkjadams · 07-15-2010, 05:37 PM

I already have a A-pillar gauge pod..... What wires are the ADM gauges connected to?

HaveBlue · 07-15-2010, 08:21 PM

Does this help? From Edelbrock's website: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ce_boost.shtml

E-Force Boost Measurement (Installing A Boost Gauge Or Pressure Tranducer)
1. The TMAP sensor mounted on top of the manifold at the rear of the driver's side, outputs a 0-5 volt signal through pins 1 & 2 (pin 1 is signal & pin 2 is signal return,) that can be converted to an absolute pressure reading using the below calibration curve. Use of this signal requires an ambient pressure correction for calculating boost pressure.

Voltage Pressure
0.62 2.70
0.80 3.69
1.09 5.70
1.40 7.69
1.71 9.70
2.17 12.70
2.46 14.70
2.70 16.21
2.94 17.70
3.25 19.71
3.55 21.70
3.84 23.71
4.15 25.70
4.46 27.70
4.76 29.70

2. The second option is to utilize the pressure port at the rear of the passenger side intake runner flange. Your supercharger has been pre-drilled and tapped for a 1/8" NPT fitting. There is currently a plug sealing the hole, which can be removed, and replaced with a fitting to adapt to your sensor.
CAUTION: Never cut into the vacuum lines leading to the fuel rail pressure sensor and bypass actuator, on the driver's side of the manifold, for the purpose of tapping in a boost gauge. Interruption of the vacuum signal to the fuel rail pressure sensor can affect the fuel pressure reading to the PCM, which can result in engine failure! Furthermore, this port reads pressure before the intercooler, and therefore is before the inherent intercooler pressure drop. Readings from this port will always be approx. 20% higher then what the engine actually sees.
If measured properly on an otherwise stock 4.6L Mustang GT, your boost readings, utilizing an electronic transducer or MAP sensor, on a dyno, should be comparable to this boost curve, shown below, collected from a recent dyno test here at Edelbrock. If you install a mechanical boost gauge in your vehicle, you will see a steady 5 PSI on the gauge during full throttle acceleration on the street.

RPM Boost
2600 5.092
3000 5.733
3500 5.541
3800 5.637
4000 5.733
4300 5.637
4500 5.701
4600 5.829
4700 5.765
4800 5.509
4900 5.701
5000 5.798
RPM Boost
5100 5.862
5200 6.085
5300 6.278
5400 6.278
5500 6.342
5600 6.502
5700 6.663
5800 6.950
5900 6.950
6000 7.272
6100 7.336
6200 7.559

JM10 · 07-15-2010, 09:05 PM

HaveBlu,

I did this:

JM10 · 07-15-2010, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue

2. The second option is to utilize the pressure port at the rear of the passenger side intake runner flange. Your supercharger has been pre-drilled and tapped for a 1/8" NPT fitting. There is currently a plug sealing the hole, which can be removed, and replaced with a fitting to adapt to your sensor.

Is this the pressure bolt? This one is located at the driver side of the E-Force

rtkjadams · 07-15-2010, 09:46 PM

what wires did you use to light the gauge??

Ray

HaveBlue · 07-15-2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM10

Is this the pressure bolt? This one is located at the driver side of the E-Force

the pressure port at the rear of the passenger side intake runner flange.

JM10 · 07-15-2010, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtkjadams

what wires did you use to light the gauge??

Ray

Sorry cant help, it was done at a Shop

JM10 · 07-15-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue

the pressure port at the rear of the passenger side intake runner flange.

Do you see a problem in my installation?
I will find the pressure port and fix it

I wil try to post pics tomorrow if I find it...

JM

lock · 08-04-2010, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM10

Is this the pressure bolt? This one is located at the driver side of the E-Force

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue

the pressure port at the rear of the passenger side intake runner flange.

Does anyone have a picture of the port used to tap in a gauge. I can only find a plug like the one pictured but its on the drivers side? Im looking to put my KB BAP sensor in it.

Kwaz1335 · 03-12-2011, 02:51 PM

I know this is an old thread but it suits my question. I am installing a boost/vac gauge on a 2010 Camaro SS LS3 with a magnuson supercharger. If you T tap the boost refrence on your Maggie...what are you guys using as a vacuum?

Kwaz1335 · 03-12-2011, 08:49 PM

I see how well my question was noticed. Forgive me if it's obvious...I am a blonde!!! Lol

jsharp · 03-12-2011, 09:26 PM

It will read both boost and vacuum if you tap at the boost reference point.

Darth_Emma · 03-12-2011, 09:56 PM

I ordered Cobalt wideband and a boost gauges for my A-pillar pod. They're supposed to be high quality and they have a blue light that is similar to the gauges in the dash.

IPS Motorsports is installing them for me while they have my car to put in the cam and torque converter. I'll post pics once they're in the car.

Kwaz1335 · 03-13-2011, 07:49 AM

Thanks...much appreciated

07-15-2010, 08:21 PM	#16
HaveBlue Drives: CTS/CAMARO Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SEMA/PERF INDUSTRY GUY Posts: 488	Does this help? From Edelbrock's website: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ce_boost.shtml E-Force Boost Measurement (Installing A Boost Gauge Or Pressure Tranducer) 1. The TMAP sensor mounted on top of the manifold at the rear of the driver's side, outputs a 0-5 volt signal through pins 1 & 2 (pin 1 is signal & pin 2 is signal return,) that can be converted to an absolute pressure reading using the below calibration curve. Use of this signal requires an ambient pressure correction for calculating boost pressure. Voltage Pressure 0.62 2.70 0.80 3.69 1.09 5.70 1.40 7.69 1.71 9.70 2.17 12.70 2.46 14.70 2.70 16.21 2.94 17.70 3.25 19.71 3.55 21.70 3.84 23.71 4.15 25.70 4.46 27.70 4.76 29.70 2. The second option is to utilize the pressure port at the rear of the passenger side intake runner flange. Your supercharger has been pre-drilled and tapped for a 1/8" NPT fitting. There is currently a plug sealing the hole, which can be removed, and replaced with a fitting to adapt to your sensor. CAUTION: Never cut into the vacuum lines leading to the fuel rail pressure sensor and bypass actuator, on the driver's side of the manifold, for the purpose of tapping in a boost gauge. Interruption of the vacuum signal to the fuel rail pressure sensor can affect the fuel pressure reading to the PCM, which can result in engine failure! Furthermore, this port reads pressure before the intercooler, and therefore is before the inherent intercooler pressure drop. Readings from this port will always be approx. 20% higher then what the engine actually sees. If measured properly on an otherwise stock 4.6L Mustang GT, your boost readings, utilizing an electronic transducer or MAP sensor, on a dyno, should be comparable to this boost curve, shown below, collected from a recent dyno test here at Edelbrock. If you install a mechanical boost gauge in your vehicle, you will see a steady 5 PSI on the gauge during full throttle acceleration on the street. RPM Boost 2600 5.092 3000 5.733 3500 5.541 3800 5.637 4000 5.733 4300 5.637 4500 5.701 4600 5.829 4700 5.765 4800 5.509 4900 5.701 5000 5.798 RPM Boost 5100 5.862 5200 6.085 5300 6.278 5400 6.278 5500 6.342 5600 6.502 5700 6.663 5800 6.950 5900 6.950 6000 7.272 6100 7.336 6200 7.559 __________________ "everyone wants to go to heaven. but nobody wants to die" "you gotta pay to play" SEMA PICTURES-PARTS & CARS http://www.pbase.com/haveblue/sema_2009

07-15-2010, 09:05 PM	#17
JM10 Se habla español Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS VR Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Arizona/Sonora Posts: 605	HaveBlu, I did this: Attached Images __________________ 2010 VR 2SS/RS BMR Suspension Parts Hendrix HD Axles DSS Aluminum Shaft RPM Diff / 3.91 Gears LPE ZR1 Clutch Edelbrock E-Force SC / JRE Fuel Upgrade Livernois 1C cam 570 rwhp/559 rwtq SAE Best 1/4 time: 11.43

03-12-2011, 02:51 PM	#24
Kwaz1335 The Kwaz Drives: Black 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 259 View My Garage	I know this is an old thread but it suits my question. I am installing a boost/vac gauge on a 2010 Camaro SS LS3 with a magnuson supercharger. If you T tap the boost refrence on your Maggie...what are you guys using as a vacuum? __________________ Ordered:3/13/09 1100: 3/13/09 3300: 5/12/09 Picked up and brought home 6/26/2009 2010 Black on Black SS/RS Camaro Silver stripe package Ground effects package 6 Speed Manual Transmission with Hurst short throw, Magnuson Supercharger, SLP loudmouth 1 kit.

03-12-2011, 08:49 PM	#25
Kwaz1335 The Kwaz Drives: Black 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 259 View My Garage	I see how well my question was noticed. Forgive me if it's obvious...I am a blonde!!! Lol __________________ Ordered:3/13/09 1100: 3/13/09 3300: 5/12/09 Picked up and brought home 6/26/2009 2010 Black on Black SS/RS Camaro Silver stripe package Ground effects package 6 Speed Manual Transmission with Hurst short throw, Magnuson Supercharger, SLP loudmouth 1 kit.

03-12-2011, 09:26 PM	#26
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,336	It will read both boost and vacuum if you tap at the boost reference point. __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Mickey Thompson @25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

07-15-2010, 05:37 PM	#15
rtkjadams Drives: Red Jewel SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: S.Florida Posts: 59	I already have a A-pillar gauge pod..... What wires are the ADM gauges connected to?

07-15-2010, 09:46 PM	#19
rtkjadams Drives: Red Jewel SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: S.Florida Posts: 59	what wires did you use to light the gauge?? Ray

03-12-2011, 09:56 PM	#27
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	I ordered Cobalt wideband and a boost gauges for my A-pillar pod. They're supposed to be high quality and they have a blue light that is similar to the gauges in the dash. IPS Motorsports is installing them for me while they have my car to put in the cam and torque converter. I'll post pics once they're in the car.

03-13-2011, 07:49 AM	#28
Kwaz1335 The Kwaz Drives: Black 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 259 View My Garage	Thanks...much appreciated __________________ Ordered:3/13/09 1100: 3/13/09 3300: 5/12/09 Picked up and brought home 6/26/2009 2010 Black on Black SS/RS Camaro Silver stripe package Ground effects package 6 Speed Manual Transmission with Hurst short throw, Magnuson Supercharger, SLP loudmouth 1 kit.

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