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redhotcandy · 08-10-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by skirush

Most salespeople will lie to their own mothers to make a sale. You are correct that some are actually decent...but that's a pretty rare find. Most are lying scoundrels. They are not people...they are aliens.

I'm surprised that salesman didn't say..."Rattle, oh it's supposed to rattle. It helps get more horsepower that way". Sounds like he came kind of close to it though.

Oh, I'm always polite to sales people and others, my sales guy was no exception. He is/was actually a very nice person and tried to answer my questions even tho he didn't really know much about the car. I actually told him things about it (thanks to my fellow camaro5 peeps, I've learned a lot!) He didn't say he thought it was the shifter, he said he thought the muffler needed to be "tightened." Like I said, he later sent it to service for them to take a look and they said it was an issue with the SS that Chevy had no fix for. hmmm. ok. So, at that point, I turned to you guys!

I'm going to pick it up in about a half hour to keep till Monday to check it out.

redhotcandy · 08-10-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by redhotcandy

Oh, I'm always polite to sales people and others, my sales guy was no exception. He is/was actually a very nice person and tried to answer my questions even tho he didn't really know much about the car. I actually told him things about it (thanks to my fellow camaro5 peeps, I've learned a lot!) He didn't say he thought it was the shifter, he said he thought the muffler needed to be "tightened." Like I said, he later sent it to service for them to take a look and they said it was an issue with the SS that Chevy had no fix for. hmmm. ok. So, at that point, I turned to you guys!

I'm going to pick it up in about a half hour to keep till Monday to check it out.

LOL, I just read more of what you wrote about the sales guy saying "it's supposed to rattle." You are right, he did come close. Before he said the muffler needed to be tightened, he said that it could be the engine with "all that power."

JCunningham · 08-10-2013, 01:11 PM

test drive both then get the black one.

id get the one with no license plate holes in the bumper and get a extended warranty. When you trade it put it back as much as you can to stock and sell the parts.

HorsemenLC-SS · 08-10-2013, 01:18 PM

The very early models of the hurst shifter rattles a lot. If you leave you hand on the shifter at sll times you can feel the vibration. My brother got one of the first ones and his rattled a lot.

RonnieG · 08-10-2013, 02:50 PM

not during acceleration, but it will rattle sometimes when driving low rpms (between 1.5~2) after I push the clutch in.. very infrequent.. happens only when I get stuck driving in stop and go situations.. same thing on my previous 2LT

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both stock shifters...

BLACKssMiami · 08-10-2013, 04:55 PM

mine rattles when accelerating hard, never took the time to get it checked out though. (also stock shifter)

oldfriend · 08-10-2013, 06:27 PM

It's kind of normal that rattle sound that you experienced
Specially when a nucle head sales guy is in the car , regardless whom is driving at that specific moment
It's a well documented case that affects some sales people , their heads tend to bee way bigger for the brains they came with , and that's the only source for that rattling sound , the brains have to much empty storage to move around

redhotcandy · 08-10-2013, 10:30 PM

Well, I picked up the 9K mile one at about noon today and have had fun with it all day! I don't want to get out of it. It's awesome.

The General Sales Manager said he took it out to drive it after I left on Friday and he said he knew right away that it was the bushings in the shifter. Probably not explaining it right, but I'm sure you know what I mean. He told me it is a factory installed Hurst and it was/is? an option from the factory. IDK about that. Maybe someone else does. So, if it's factory, it's probably out of warranty anyway. He talked to me about having it fixed so it doesn't rattle and how costly it could be vs getting a Calaway shifter in it. He said those are about 5-600, if it really bothered me that much.

The more I drove it the less I really paid attention to it, but it's still there, but infrequent.

Oh, and according to him, it's a stock exhaust. Sounds awesome tho. And, is the ambient lighting supposed to be on the dash panel as well as the door panel inserts?

So, I'll keep it until Monday and think about it. I don't know if I want to get into more payments or just keep mine and pay it off (for once in my life!) LOL.

IDK what to do....

beany323 · 08-10-2013, 11:09 PM

test drive a new ss. compare them then. gl.

Squillo · 08-11-2013, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by redhotcandy

Well, I picked up the 9K mile one at about noon today and have had fun with it all day! I don't want to get out of it. It's awesome.

The General Sales Manager said he took it out to drive it after I left on Friday and he said he knew right away that it was the bushings in the shifter. Probably not explaining it right, but I'm sure you know what I mean. He told me it is a factory installed Hurst and it was/is? an option from the factory. IDK about that. Maybe someone else does. So, if it's factory, it's probably out of warranty anyway. He talked to me about having it fixed so it doesn't rattle and how costly it could be vs getting a Calaway shifter in it. He said those are about 5-600, if it really bothered me that much.

The more I drove it the less I really paid attention to it, but it's still there, but infrequent.

Oh, and according to him, it's a stock exhaust. Sounds awesome tho. And, is the ambient lighting supposed to be on the dash panel as well as the door panel inserts?

So, I'll keep it until Monday and think about it. I don't know if I want to get into more payments or just keep mine and pay it off (for once in my life!) LOL.

IDK what to do....

Yes, the Hurst was/is an option from the factory. He's most likely correct about the rattle being the shifter bushings.

No, the ambient lighting only goes on in the doors.

Best of luck with your decision. Something tells me you are going to be leaving the dealership with the same car you drive there on Monday

AdamEL · 08-11-2013, 01:47 AM

Test drove one today for about 30 minutes and didn't hear any rattle anywhere. Stock shifter on that one.

DRKnight1SS · 08-11-2013, 02:14 AM

Pretty sure it's the shifter causing the issue my SS doesn't make any sort of rattling noises. I'd say go for the SS if the price is right. Later on you can always switch out the shifter for a more solid unit my recommendation would be the MGW short throw, that's what I'm going to be getting here in the near future. Heard nothing but excellent things from that companies product.

redhotcandy · 08-12-2013, 01:32 PM

Well,I'm taking the SS back to the dealership today and letting them ahve it back. The more I drove it, the more the rattle bugged me. I know it can be changed out, but I don't want to buy a car and already know at purchase, I'll have to change something like that. That on top of they aren't really willing to negotiate to where I need to be.

I really love my car and actually missed it! LOL. Don't get me wrong, after driving the SS, I love it too, just not enough right now to let mine go. I'll be looking for a killer deal tho. Hopefully, one will pop up that I can live with. I do have to take into consideration the gas mileage...that car sucked down gas like crazy! I'll be moving about 35 miles from work in the next few months vs 10 miles, so I can see that being an issue. LOVE the power though!!!

Thanks everyone so much for your comments to help me. Your knowledge on the subject and ideas were awesome!

Jamie Mac · 08-12-2013, 03:54 PM

Hurst shifter rattles on hard acceleration. Mines been doing it for over 30,000 miles. Good to go

08-10-2013, 01:11 PM	#45
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	test drive both then get the black one. id get the one with no license plate holes in the bumper and get a extended warranty. When you trade it put it back as much as you can to stock and sell the parts. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

08-10-2013, 02:50 PM	#47
RonnieG Drives: 2013 AGM 1LE/2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lakeland, Florida Posts: 289 View My Garage	not during acceleration, but it will rattle sometimes when driving low rpms (between 1.5~2) after I push the clutch in.. very infrequent.. happens only when I get stuck driving in stop and go situations.. same thing on my previous 2LT :edit: both stock shifters... Last edited by RonnieG; 08-10-2013 at 05:24 PM.

08-10-2013, 11:09 PM	#51
beany323 Drives: Camaro 2SS /RS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Cali. Posts: 1,566 View My Garage	test drive a new ss. compare them then. gl. __________________ "The fact the GT500 can barely beat a $37k car with 200 less horsepower speaks volumes. There are about a million mods you can do to a LS3 to make a Camaro do the 1/4 faster then a GT500." (Vroom.) Updated w/ Willow Springs: 1. Nissan GTR Track Pack 1:19.6 2. Ducati 1198 S 1:19.7 3. Nissan GTR 1:20.3 4. Corvette Z06 1:20.4 5. Audi R8 V10 Plus 1:22.0 6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:22.3 7. CAMARO SS 1LE 1:22.7 8. Shelby GT 500 1:23.5 9. Mustang Gt Track Pack 1:25.8

08-12-2013, 03:54 PM	#56
Jamie Mac NCM-WINR Drives: 2010 SS/RS IOM 2014 2LT Stingray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,324	Hurst shifter rattles on hard acceleration. Mines been doing it for over 30,000 miles. Good to go __________________ also drives a heavily modified Jeep Wrangler. It has LED headlights and wheel weights blacked out with Plasti Dip. It's Baller.

08-10-2013, 01:18 PM	#46
HorsemenLC-SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2005 CTS-V Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Las Cruces Posts: 51 View My Garage	The very early models of the hurst shifter rattles a lot. If you leave you hand on the shifter at sll times you can feel the vibration. My brother got one of the first ones and his rattled a lot.

08-10-2013, 04:55 PM	#48
BLACKssMiami Drives: 2ssrs Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: south florida Posts: 60	mine rattles when accelerating hard, never took the time to get it checked out though. (also stock shifter)

08-10-2013, 06:27 PM	#49
oldfriend Drives: Fiat 500 E Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 32.7607/N. 16.95947/W Posts: 7,816 View My Garage	It's kind of normal that rattle sound that you experienced Specially when a nucle head sales guy is in the car , regardless whom is driving at that specific moment It's a well documented case that affects some sales people , their heads tend to bee way bigger for the brains they came with , and that's the only source for that rattling sound , the brains have to much empty storage to move around

08-10-2013, 10:30 PM	#50
redhotcandy Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: The Great Plains Posts: 568 View My Garage	Well, I picked up the 9K mile one at about noon today and have had fun with it all day! I don't want to get out of it. It's awesome. The General Sales Manager said he took it out to drive it after I left on Friday and he said he knew right away that it was the bushings in the shifter. Probably not explaining it right, but I'm sure you know what I mean. He told me it is a factory installed Hurst and it was/is? an option from the factory. IDK about that. Maybe someone else does. So, if it's factory, it's probably out of warranty anyway. He talked to me about having it fixed so it doesn't rattle and how costly it could be vs getting a Calaway shifter in it. He said those are about 5-600, if it really bothered me that much. The more I drove it the less I really paid attention to it, but it's still there, but infrequent. Oh, and according to him, it's a stock exhaust. Sounds awesome tho. And, is the ambient lighting supposed to be on the dash panel as well as the door panel inserts? So, I'll keep it until Monday and think about it. I don't know if I want to get into more payments or just keep mine and pay it off (for once in my life!) LOL. IDK what to do....

08-11-2013, 01:47 AM	#53
AdamEL Adam E. Lucchesi Drives: 2010 1SS/RS LS3 VR Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,381 View My Garage	Test drove one today for about 30 minutes and didn't hear any rattle anywhere. Stock shifter on that one.

08-11-2013, 02:14 AM	#54
DRKnight1SS The Dude Drives: 2013 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego, Cali. Posts: 364	Pretty sure it's the shifter causing the issue my SS doesn't make any sort of rattling noises. I'd say go for the SS if the price is right. Later on you can always switch out the shifter for a more solid unit my recommendation would be the MGW short throw, that's what I'm going to be getting here in the near future. Heard nothing but excellent things from that companies product.

08-12-2013, 01:32 PM	#55
redhotcandy Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: The Great Plains Posts: 568 View My Garage	Well,I'm taking the SS back to the dealership today and letting them ahve it back. The more I drove it, the more the rattle bugged me. I know it can be changed out, but I don't want to buy a car and already know at purchase, I'll have to change something like that. That on top of they aren't really willing to negotiate to where I need to be. I really love my car and actually missed it! LOL. Don't get me wrong, after driving the SS, I love it too, just not enough right now to let mine go. I'll be looking for a killer deal tho. Hopefully, one will pop up that I can live with. I do have to take into consideration the gas mileage...that car sucked down gas like crazy! I'll be moving about 35 miles from work in the next few months vs 10 miles, so I can see that being an issue. LOVE the power though!!! Thanks everyone so much for your comments to help me. Your knowledge on the subject and ideas were awesome!