10-26-2013, 04:25 PM | #1 |
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are speed limits really necessary?
http://www.0-60mag.com/blog/2011/11/...d-limits-rant/
interesting read.. many studies have shown that there are fewer car crashes on the autobahn where motorists frequently go 150+mph. speed limits create unnecessary traffic and congestion.
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10-26-2013, 04:27 PM | #2 |
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between 1995 and 1999, Montana exercised no numerical speed limit on most rural roads, instead requiring drivers to simply use “reasonable and prudent” speed. The accident count and death toll dropped. Come the summer of ’99, the state reimplemented speed limits…and the accident rate began to climb again.
When you’re driving as quickly as you feel comfortable going, your mind is devoting all its attention to the task of piloting the car. When you go slowly, though, the conscious brain grows bored and hands the driving baton off to the older, unconscious part—the reptilian complex, if you will
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10-26-2013, 04:28 PM | #3 |
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I say yes because there are so many bad drivers out there. They would get into accident at low speeds, let alone at high speeds.
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10-26-2013, 04:30 PM | #4 |
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Too big of a money maker, no way this would happen... unfortunately.
I do feel the same way though. How about at least a toll road or something like that.
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10-26-2013, 04:39 PM | #5 |
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Very few people drive the speed limit on Interstate highways so why have it.
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10-26-2013, 04:57 PM | #6 |
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10-26-2013, 05:55 PM | #8 |
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Depends on the situation. On open interstate, the limits could probably be higher. In rural areas with little traffic, I don't see why speed limits are necessary. On an open, almost deserted interstate, say in Nevada, Wyoming, Montana, etc...I don't think it would be particularly unsafe to cruise at 100 or even 120 in a sports car, though I wouldn't do it with an SUV, which for some unknown reason, Americans are obsessed with.
Problem is, unlike Germany, we design everything here for the lowest common denominator. Instead of requiring driver skill and designing a system around it, we do everything necessary so that very poor drivers can still drive. I say raise licensing standards, and raise or in some rural locations eliminate the limits. It would kill two birds with one stone (actually three...eliminating unskilled drivers would probably be the end of Toyota).
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10-26-2013, 06:00 PM | #9 |
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It's patently obvious that not every area lends itself to an 'autobahn' like situation. That's simply no arguing that since something happens or doesn't happen on the autobahns, thatdoesn't mean that speed limits are not necessary. Come on now, we're adults. There's no speed limit at Monza, either.
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10-26-2013, 06:12 PM | #10 |
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Have to keep in mind the "autobahn" only has some stretches of left lane only unlimited speeds. It is not every where. And as I understand it the rules are very strict. Pulling into the left lane and causing an accident is not viewed as an accident. You are violating laws and can do serious jail time. And there may be few accidents but when they have accidents they are usually fatalities.
Yes speeds limits are necessary. We will see how the stretch in Texas works with the 80 mph limit. There aren't a lot of people I would be willing to ride with at 100 mph plus speeds. That takes more training than the average driver will ever see in the US.
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I'm not saying we should be driving 150 through city centers during rush hour, and I guarantee no one actually would anyway. What we are saying is that doing stupid **it like driving in the wrong lane, swerving, making sudden, unexpected moves for no reason, tailgating, or doing any number of things that aren't driving while driving are what really cause problems and accidents on the roads. Germany can have the autobahn because they have strict, but common sense rules about lane discipline, passing, etc... Speed is not the problem. It is irresponsible and/or poor driving that is the problem. We would be much safer going 90-100 and paying attention than going 65 while taking on cell phones or eating.
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Yes because there are too many irresponsible immature people that think even with speed limits and traffic laws they should be able to drive any way they want which in many situations puts themselves along with anyone else on the road at the same time in danger.
By the reasoning we are all adults and should be able to choose our speed based on our own judgement is ridiculous. Not everyone on the road has or shows good judgement. Just look around, you can't even leave a safe following distance between yourself and the car in front of you without some butthole cutting in between and hitting the brakes so he can make a turn.
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Getting a driver's license should require a far more stringent behind the wheel test. I'd go so far as to suggest it should require a clean and timely run around an autocross course.
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They should also implement minimum speed limits, I see more BS on our country single lane highways. When grandma is driving 35 in a 55 in her Camry, then everyone else has to drive that slow behind her causing many to lose their patience, pass, and often get in an accident.
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