Factory Alignment Warranty

kwav8r · 05-09-2019, 10:28 AM

PSA - GM only covers the factory alignment on these cars up to 7,500 miles. If you're under that than I highly recommend you get it done through a dealership.

Some of the alignment bolts on these wonderful machines are TTY (one time use only) which means that if they are loosened to align the car they must be replaced. While I'm curious to know what kind of torque values we're talking about, it doesn't take away from the fact that a TTY bolt 'should not' be re-used.

I personally have about ~8,400 miles on mine (not a DD), and I have noticed uneven tire wear to the outsides of all four tires. Was told yesterday that yes, the camber is out on all four tires and in addition to the new TTY alignment bolts the front end needs to have a "strut grind". In total it's going to cost ~$450 for a four wheel alignment, which isn't crazy expensive but, I wanted to get this out there for awareness.

bobby35ny · 05-09-2019, 10:57 AM

Did you see the MESS of my alignment in the other thread?
I have only 2k miles, showed the dealer, they will do the alignment next week.

DangerZL1 · 05-09-2019, 10:57 AM

Thanks for the heads up. I think it's normal for manufacturers to limit the time they'll cover an alignment. Can you explain what a "strut grind" is?

gotswap · 05-09-2019, 11:43 AM

Yep, so much can happen when leaving the lot to throw it out of whack. Surprised the coverage is even that long

bobby35ny · 05-09-2019, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotswap

Yep, so much can happen when leaving the lot to throw it out of whack. Surprised the coverage is even that long

I think they are coming out of the factory way off.

gotswap · 05-09-2019, 12:09 PM

That was on my mind when I purchased. I wanted to have it checked before I drove off the lot but I had to beat a snow storm on a 450 mile trip home. So far my tires @2000 miles are wearing pretty even.

I have a Ram 3500 that just ate through the front tires in 10k miles. Took it in and the alignment was WAY out of whack. Lesson learned.….

hawk02 · 05-09-2019, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwav8r

PSA - GM only covers the factory alignment on these cars up to 7,500 miles. If you're under that than I highly recommend you get it done through a dealership.

Some of the alignment bolts on these wonderful machines are TTY (one time use only) which means that if they are loosened to align the car they must be replaced. While I'm curious to know what kind of torque values we're talking about, it doesn't take away from the fact that a TTY bolt 'should not' be re-used.

I personally have about ~8,400 miles on mine (not a DD), and I have noticed uneven tire wear to the outsides of all four tires. Was told yesterday that yes, the camber is out on all four tires and in addition to the new TTY alignment bolts the front end needs to have a "strut grind". In total it's going to cost ~$450 for a four wheel alignment, which isn't crazy expensive but, I wanted to get this out there for awareness.

Here are the wheel alignment instructions and torque specs from the 2017 Camaro service manual. I assume this is the same for the 18 & 19 model year Non-1LE models as well.

bobby35ny · 05-09-2019, 01:07 PM

DangerZL1 · 05-09-2019, 02:22 PM

After touring the BG Corvette factory and watching the alignment on a C7, it's amazing the alignment is as close as it is. If the Camaro line is similar, any new one should be aligned before delivery if possible.

kwav8r · 05-09-2019, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

Did you see the MESS of my alignment in the other thread?
I have only 2k miles, showed the dealer, they will do the alignment next week.

I did see your alignment sheet and it is a mess.

Knowing what I know now, I would have demanded an alignment right after delivery and right before going over 7,500 miles.

Either the factory alignment is sketchy at best (in all these cars) or they don't hold an alignment for shite.

kwav8r · 05-09-2019, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerZL1

Thanks for the heads up. I think it's normal for manufacturers to limit the time they'll cover an alignment. Can you explain what a "strut grind" is?

I don't know and have never heard of it either but, there are a lot of things I haven't heard of...

I am going to ask when I pick the car up tomorrow and will report back - if nothing else I'm curious as well.

Toons · 05-09-2019, 05:34 PM

I learned the hard way when I found horrible wear on the outside of the passenger front tire. Took it in at 8500 mi as was told too bad, there is a 7500 mi limit. This is BS, the factory should be replacing the tires and aligning for what is a factory defect.

mspeed1LE · 05-09-2019, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwav8r

PSA - GM only covers the factory alignment on these cars up to 7,500 miles. If you're under that than I highly recommend you get it done through a dealership.

Some of the alignment bolts on these wonderful machines are TTY (one time use only) which means that if they are loosened to align the car they must be replaced. While I'm curious to know what kind of torque values we're talking about, it doesn't take away from the fact that a TTY bolt 'should not' be re-used.

I personally have about ~8,400 miles on mine (not a DD), and I have noticed uneven tire wear to the outsides of all four tires. Was told yesterday that yes, the camber is out on all four tires and in addition to the new TTY alignment bolts the front end needs to have a "strut grind". In total it's going to cost ~$450 for a four wheel alignment, which isn't crazy expensive but, I wanted to get this out there for awareness.

The mention of the TTY bolts has me concerned. I'm getting a track alignment done in a couple of weeks and I'm wondering how this will apply to my ZL1 1LE. Which bolts specifically and if anyone can chime in about the ZL1 1LE. Thanks.

kwav8r · 05-11-2019, 10:32 AM

So, the guy who does the alignments in the shop left before I got to the dealership yesterday so I wasn't able to ask what he did. Apparently this cat has been doing alignments for a long time and he's a bit of a stickler for details.

How the service manager explained the 'strut grind' to me is that in order to get some cars an alignment that is truly dialed-in, they sometimes have to do some grinding where the strut mates with the frame - I believe it's a clearance issue with the bottom of the strut but, I'm still not 100% sure what the hell it does. At any rate, it was less than an hour worth of labor for the 'strut grind'.

Here's my before and after:

05-09-2019, 10:28 AM	#1
kwav8r Flyin NOE Drives: 2018 ZL1 (A10) Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: TX Posts: 949	Factory Alignment Warranty PSA - GM only covers the factory alignment on these cars up to 7,500 miles. If you're under that than I highly recommend you get it done through a dealership. Some of the alignment bolts on these wonderful machines are TTY (one time use only) which means that if they are loosened to align the car they must be replaced. While I'm curious to know what kind of torque values we're talking about, it doesn't take away from the fact that a TTY bolt 'should not' be re-used. I personally have about ~8,400 miles on mine (not a DD), and I have noticed uneven tire wear to the outsides of all four tires. Was told yesterday that yes, the camber is out on all four tires and in addition to the new TTY alignment bolts the front end needs to have a "strut grind". In total it's going to cost ~$450 for a four wheel alignment, which isn't crazy expensive but, I wanted to get this out there for awareness.

05-09-2019, 10:57 AM	#2
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,024	Did you see the MESS of my alignment in the other thread? I have only 2k miles, showed the dealer, they will do the alignment next week. __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

05-09-2019, 01:07 PM	#8
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,024	__________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

05-11-2019, 10:32 AM	#14
kwav8r Flyin NOE Drives: 2018 ZL1 (A10) Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: TX Posts: 949	So, the guy who does the alignments in the shop left before I got to the dealership yesterday so I wasn't able to ask what he did. Apparently this cat has been doing alignments for a long time and he's a bit of a stickler for details. How the service manager explained the 'strut grind' to me is that in order to get some cars an alignment that is truly dialed-in, they sometimes have to do some grinding where the strut mates with the frame - I believe it's a clearance issue with the bottom of the strut but, I'm still not 100% sure what the hell it does. At any rate, it was less than an hour worth of labor for the 'strut grind'. Here's my before and after: Attached Images Last edited by kwav8r; 05-11-2019 at 03:43 PM.

05-09-2019, 10:57 AM	#3
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	Thanks for the heads up. I think it's normal for manufacturers to limit the time they'll cover an alignment. Can you explain what a "strut grind" is?

05-09-2019, 11:43 AM	#4
gotswap Drives: 2019 ZL1 Crush Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 564	Yep, so much can happen when leaving the lot to throw it out of whack. Surprised the coverage is even that long

05-09-2019, 12:09 PM	#6
gotswap Drives: 2019 ZL1 Crush Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 564	That was on my mind when I purchased. I wanted to have it checked before I drove off the lot but I had to beat a snow storm on a 450 mile trip home. So far my tires @2000 miles are wearing pretty even. I have a Ram 3500 that just ate through the front tires in 10k miles. Took it in and the alignment was WAY out of whack. Lesson learned.….

05-09-2019, 02:22 PM	#9
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	After touring the BG Corvette factory and watching the alignment on a C7, it's amazing the alignment is as close as it is. If the Camaro line is similar, any new one should be aligned before delivery if possible.

05-09-2019, 05:34 PM	#12
Toons Speed Racer Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 164	I learned the hard way when I found horrible wear on the outside of the passenger front tire. Took it in at 8500 mi as was told too bad, there is a 7500 mi limit. This is BS, the factory should be replacing the tires and aligning for what is a factory defect.

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