PPF Chat - Why and why not? - Page 3

HemiDave · 01-18-2023, 09:05 PM

PPF and Ceramic on my ZLE and Dodge Demon.

Pricey, but 100% worth it if you are keeping the car long term.

My Demon still looks like I just picked it up with just a simple wash.

ST1LE · 01-19-2023, 09:56 AM

It depends on a lot of factors, not the least of which is price. Some installers charge more than it would cost to paint and fit a brand new panel.

Driving habits also make a huge impact, repainting a bumper every couple years will add up.

For me, I don't think current prices would be worth it. Weekend toy, low miles, makes the cost more than the benefit in my use case.

That said, if I had a Demon like HemiDave I would absolutely PPF that puppy. Some vehicles are rare/expensive enough that it is a no brainer.

The Maverick · 01-19-2023, 10:04 AM

I did PPF-lite, with Xpel stealth on the headlights, door-handle cups, and gas door. Plus the satin black vinyl wrap on my hood, roof, and trunk lid (LOL) provide a little protection.

For this daily-driver Camaro, I figure chips are inevitable - so I focused on self-inflicted wear areas. Doing the headlights reflected supply-chain concerns that were in play at the time I was ordering the wraps.

Invertalon · 01-19-2023, 10:38 AM

No PPF for me. I honestly think its a bit of a waste of money, personally. Can always get the bumper or hood repainted when it gets really bad for not really a significant difference in price (for the cost of a well done PPF job).

Also, like my last car, I kept the thing meticulous over 140K miles until someone decided to rear end me and total the car. All it takes is a moment like that to ruin all the effort and money put into keeping it perfect... You can't control others from ruining it for you... So I'd rather save the $2-3K and use it for other stuff. Instead, I'll keep it clean, waxed and paint corrected as needed without the PPF.

Newcastle · 01-19-2023, 02:19 PM

Ya we all know how nice repaints turn out.

Jus Cruisin · 01-19-2023, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle

Ya we all know how nice repaints turn out.

Yep, usually way better than factory.

Newcastle · 01-19-2023, 02:59 PM

Thats hillarious!

Socal Shock · 01-19-2023, 03:37 PM

Funny and yet true.

Newcastle · 01-19-2023, 03:39 PM

I have never seen a repaint that didnt look like a repaint.

Chutzpah · 01-19-2023, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle

I have never seen a repaint that didnt look like a repaint.

You’ve seen paint jobs done by crummy shops. There’s certainly an abundance of bad work out there, but a good shops work will look seamless and will be a better quality paint job (than Chevy’s).

PizzzzzaForPresident · 01-19-2023, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle

I have never seen a repaint that didnt look like a repaint.

How would you know without taking to the owner? The bad ones stand out because they have obvious indicators, but you've probably seen far more cars that have been repainted and just didn't realize it.

Christian1LE · 01-19-2023, 05:34 PM

I am a fan of PPF on front bumper and fenders, kind of wish I had gotten it on my rockers as well but I mainly drive on the track. Ideally on the quarter panel too....

Well, Ideally everywhere lol.

1ceman · 01-20-2023, 03:37 PM

I considered the PPF but only got the Ceramic Pro. I'll find out later I'm sure if it was a mistake or not.
Living up north, my cars took a beating and the paint faded over time. Living down south is a bit better in terms of wear and tear, but I want my car to look better and be easier to maintain for the long run.
I won't be driving much overall (4 mile drive to work), but I will be driving daily. I also plan to keep the car for a long time. It's covered by my insurance, so I think it's worth it.
With the Ceramic Guys Butter Wax, I felt like I needed to wash every week. The car looked dirty. With the Ceramic Pro, it's not holding dust and dirt the same.

First pic is after one day of rain.
Second is a week later, after 2 more consecutive days of rain and no touch-up or wash.
After, I gave it a quick touch-up behind the wheels and back and went about my business.

jamala00 · 01-20-2023, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle

I have never seen a repaint that didnt look like a repaint.

I had to have a couple parts on my Harley repainted because the shipping company damaged it. I'd love for you to stop by and tell me what parts on it were repainted. I can guarantee you 110% you'll never be able to tell me. Feel free to stop by and prove me wrong.

You obviously don't go to reputable painters with some comment like that.

01-18-2023, 09:05 PM	#29
HemiDave Drives: ZLE/DEMON/GLADIATOR/GSXR1000R/ZX10R Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: New York Posts: 438	PPF and Ceramic on my ZLE and Dodge Demon. Pricey, but 100% worth it if you are keeping the car long term. My Demon still looks like I just picked it up with just a simple wash. __________________ 2018 Dodge Demon #1399 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon 6 speed manual 2023 ZL1 1LE 6 speed manual ************************* 2018 Suzuki GSXR 1000R 2021 Kawasaki ZX10R

01-19-2023, 09:56 AM	#30
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	It depends on a lot of factors, not the least of which is price. Some installers charge more than it would cost to paint and fit a brand new panel. Driving habits also make a huge impact, repainting a bumper every couple years will add up. For me, I don't think current prices would be worth it. Weekend toy, low miles, makes the cost more than the benefit in my use case. That said, if I had a Demon like HemiDave I would absolutely PPF that puppy. Some vehicles are rare/expensive enough that it is a no brainer. __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

01-20-2023, 03:37 PM	#41
1ceman Drives: 2023 LT1 Manual Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: GA Posts: 20	I considered the PPF but only got the Ceramic Pro. I'll find out later I'm sure if it was a mistake or not. Living up north, my cars took a beating and the paint faded over time. Living down south is a bit better in terms of wear and tear, but I want my car to look better and be easier to maintain for the long run. I won't be driving much overall (4 mile drive to work), but I will be driving daily. I also plan to keep the car for a long time. It's covered by my insurance, so I think it's worth it. With the Ceramic Guys Butter Wax, I felt like I needed to wash every week. The car looked dirty. With the Ceramic Pro, it's not holding dust and dirt the same. First pic is after one day of rain. Second is a week later, after 2 more consecutive days of rain and no touch-up or wash. After, I gave it a quick touch-up behind the wheels and back and went about my business. Attached Images __________________ 5/27/22 - Deposit for 2023 1LT 8/19/22 - Told order in 3000 status. Still no 6 digit order # 10/31/22 - General Mgr gives me order # & says I'm #2 for allocation 12/5/22 - Told by friend different dealer getting LT1 by 12/18 12/9/22 - Picked up that LT1

01-19-2023, 10:04 AM	#31
The Maverick Somewhere in the Kalahari Drives: 2021/18 (de-fresh) 3LT RS Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 651	I did PPF-lite, with Xpel stealth on the headlights, door-handle cups, and gas door. Plus the satin black vinyl wrap on my hood, roof, and trunk lid (LOL) provide a little protection. For this daily-driver Camaro, I figure chips are inevitable - so I focused on self-inflicted wear areas. Doing the headlights reflected supply-chain concerns that were in play at the time I was ordering the wraps.

01-19-2023, 10:38 AM	#32
Invertalon Drives: 2021 2SS Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Cleveland Posts: 299	No PPF for me. I honestly think its a bit of a waste of money, personally. Can always get the bumper or hood repainted when it gets really bad for not really a significant difference in price (for the cost of a well done PPF job). Also, like my last car, I kept the thing meticulous over 140K miles until someone decided to rear end me and total the car. All it takes is a moment like that to ruin all the effort and money put into keeping it perfect... You can't control others from ruining it for you... So I'd rather save the $2-3K and use it for other stuff. Instead, I'll keep it clean, waxed and paint corrected as needed without the PPF.

01-19-2023, 02:19 PM	#33
Newcastle Drives: 2022 2 SS 1LE on order ....now a 23 Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: North TX Posts: 285	Ya we all know how nice repaints turn out.

01-19-2023, 02:59 PM	#35
Newcastle Drives: 2022 2 SS 1LE on order ....now a 23 Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: North TX Posts: 285	Thats hillarious!

01-19-2023, 03:37 PM	#36
Socal Shock Drives: 2020 SS Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: San Marcos CA Posts: 35	Funny and yet true.

01-19-2023, 03:39 PM	#37
Newcastle Drives: 2022 2 SS 1LE on order ....now a 23 Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: North TX Posts: 285	I have never seen a repaint that didnt look like a repaint.

01-19-2023, 05:34 PM	#40
Christian1LE Drives: 2004 BMW 330CI, 2022 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: NC Posts: 746	I am a fan of PPF on front bumper and fenders, kind of wish I had gotten it on my rockers as well but I mainly drive on the track. Ideally on the quarter panel too.... Well, Ideally everywhere lol.

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