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Don O · 01-08-2010, 04:44 PM

Tony,

Nice documentation of the job. I tried doing mine 2 weeks ago and for the life of me I could not get the front strut 24MM bolts/nuts to break loose. I had an 18" breaker bar (about the longest I could get inside the fender well) and still couldn't get them to budge. I really did not want to use the air gun on it either. So its at the suspension shop today getting the Eibach Pro springs and sway bars put in. Should be ready in about an hour

Don O

Nine Ball · 01-08-2010, 05:39 PM

Don, then you definitely witnessed the "Gorilla" tight statement I mentioned, LOL. Those two bolts were TIGHT. We did the install with hand tools on purpose, to see if it was a task that anyone could do. I had air tools handy, but we didn't use them.

g-townmach, pics with the 22s maybe next week. I needed the car to look kinda stock in this article, to give a more accurate visual to those contemplating the mod.

D1BADZ, those 4th gen front struts are fun, right? Those easily test fire about 40 feet across the concrete, lol.

jeffny09 · 01-08-2010, 05:43 PM

y not use an air gun?

Kilo-9 · 01-08-2010, 09:42 PM

Another great write-up, Tony!

will69camaro · 01-08-2010, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffny09

y not use an air gun?

Not everyone has air tools. Obviously you can do it faster with air tools but to make the writeup work for the majority of the "do it yourself" type, hand tools were used as they're more common in the garage for most.

The 24mm were VERY tight. Need a good breaker bar for sure!

LittleRockCGM · 01-09-2010, 08:21 AM

Great write-up! I have been debating tackling this job and w/ these pictures and explanation I think I am good to go!

LittleRockCGM · 01-09-2010, 12:15 PM

Tony,

Any place I can get torque specs on the bolts?

Thanks
Ron

Nine Ball · 01-10-2010, 07:19 AM

We couldn't find the recommended GM torque specs, but I will dig them up based on bolt size/grade.

PfadtRacing · 01-11-2010, 09:28 AM

Hey Tony/Ron,

The torque specs that we use are the following:

Front:
Spring perch retaining nut : 65 lb-ft
Strut to spindle bolts: 95 lb-ft
Sway bar endlink fastener: 33 lb-ft
Upper strut nut to chassis: 68 lb-ft

Rear:
Upper spring perch retaining nut: 35 lb-ft
Lower contol arm to spindle: 35 lb-ft
Lower control arm to strut: 65 lb-ft
Upper strut mount to chassis: 35 lb-ft
Endlink nut: 33 lb-ft

Hope that helps!

PfadtRacing · 01-11-2010, 10:59 AM

Hey everyone, just wanted to follow up Tony's great write up with a link to our website where we have our own install procedure document, as well as a link to Tony's write up. Let us know if there are any questions! Thank you.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/?page_id=113

Soundwave · 03-17-2010, 09:27 PM

This is an excellent write up. Used it today ad swapped out everything in 3 hours in my garage using jack stands. I put the 1" Eibachs on and the stance it PERFECT! Don't be afraid of this install because it' cake. Along the same skill level as an intake!

Thanks for writing this!

OKCwhiteKnight · 04-02-2010, 12:04 AM

Thanks for the info, installed my eibach pros today. I like the stance, I was kind of worried after I bought them, that there would not be enough drop.

GuidosCamaroSS · 08-15-2010, 03:57 PM

I just installed the pfadt springs...but i never cut the bump stops. is this absolutely neccessary?

Captain McFunk · 10-03-2010, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidosCamaroSS

I just installed the pfadt springs...but i never cut the bump stops. is this absolutely neccessary?

Please answer this if you can, thanks! what are the benefits of cutting
it vs. not cutting it?

edit: Also, does this include retiming the bushings? is this something you need to do?

01-08-2010, 04:44 PM	#15
Don O Camaro and Vettehead Drives: 2SS/RS IOM L99 69 427/400 Vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: 12 miles East of Disneyland - Anaheim Hills Posts: 547 View My Garage	Tony, Nice documentation of the job. I tried doing mine 2 weeks ago and for the life of me I could not get the front strut 24MM bolts/nuts to break loose. I had an 18" breaker bar (about the longest I could get inside the fender well) and still couldn't get them to budge. I really did not want to use the air gun on it either. So its at the suspension shop today getting the Eibach Pro springs and sway bars put in. Should be ready in about an hour Don O __________________ Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.

01-08-2010, 05:39 PM	#16
Nine Ball Drives: 1969 & 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,849	Don, then you definitely witnessed the "Gorilla" tight statement I mentioned, LOL. Those two bolts were TIGHT. We did the install with hand tools on purpose, to see if it was a task that anyone could do. I had air tools handy, but we didn't use them. g-townmach, pics with the 22s maybe next week. I needed the car to look kinda stock in this article, to give a more accurate visual to those contemplating the mod. D1BADZ, those 4th gen front struts are fun, right? Those easily test fire about 40 feet across the concrete, lol. __________________ Fquick.com/NineBall

01-08-2010, 05:43 PM	#17
jeffny09 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new york Posts: 5,618	y not use an air gun? __________________ top 10 reason why real men drive stick. 10. A manual transmission is the ultimate in control 9. You can use automotive jargon and not sound like a total tool 8. You can't spell "manual" without "man" 7. Manual transmissions prove you can do more than one thing at a time 6. You can't drift in an auto 5. You can't pull fancy moves in an automatic 4. You get better fuel economy with a stick 3. You’ll never look like a chump if you can drive stick 2. Manual transmission cars are faster 1. Women like a guy who is good with his hands.

01-08-2010, 09:42 PM	#18
Kilo-9 Dog Is My Copilot Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,394	Another great write-up, Tony! __________________

01-09-2010, 08:21 AM	#20
LittleRockCGM Drives: 2010 Camaro CGM/IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 727 View My Garage	Great write-up! I have been debating tackling this job and w/ these pictures and explanation I think I am good to go! __________________ 2SS/RS CGM/IOM stripes/IOM interior Manual 1100 11/3/09 - Order Submitted (NQTRTW) 2500 11/4/09 - Order Preferenced 3300 11/11/09 - Order Scheduled for Production (TPW 11/23/09) 3400 11/17/09 - Order Broadcast 3800 11/23/09 - Build Complete (VIN: 2G1FT1EWXA9170886) 4000 11/26/09 - Ready to Ship 4200 11/30/09 - Shipped (ETTX854262) 5000 12/11/09 - Delivered to Dealer 6000 12/12/09 - Delivered to Customer (It's Mine!)

01-09-2010, 12:15 PM	#21
LittleRockCGM Drives: 2010 Camaro CGM/IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 727 View My Garage	Tony, Any place I can get torque specs on the bolts? Thanks Ron __________________ 2SS/RS CGM/IOM stripes/IOM interior Manual 1100 11/3/09 - Order Submitted (NQTRTW) 2500 11/4/09 - Order Preferenced 3300 11/11/09 - Order Scheduled for Production (TPW 11/23/09) 3400 11/17/09 - Order Broadcast 3800 11/23/09 - Build Complete (VIN: 2G1FT1EWXA9170886) 4000 11/26/09 - Ready to Ship 4200 11/30/09 - Shipped (ETTX854262) 5000 12/11/09 - Delivered to Dealer 6000 12/12/09 - Delivered to Customer (It's Mine!)

01-10-2010, 07:19 AM	#22
Nine Ball Drives: 1969 & 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,849	We couldn't find the recommended GM torque specs, but I will dig them up based on bolt size/grade. __________________ Fquick.com/NineBall

01-11-2010, 09:28 AM	#23
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	Hey Tony/Ron, The torque specs that we use are the following: Front: Spring perch retaining nut : 65 lb-ft Strut to spindle bolts: 95 lb-ft Sway bar endlink fastener: 33 lb-ft Upper strut nut to chassis: 68 lb-ft Rear: Upper spring perch retaining nut: 35 lb-ft Lower contol arm to spindle: 35 lb-ft Lower control arm to strut: 65 lb-ft Upper strut mount to chassis: 35 lb-ft Endlink nut: 33 lb-ft Hope that helps!

01-11-2010, 10:59 AM	#24
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	Hey everyone, just wanted to follow up Tony's great write up with a link to our website where we have our own install procedure document, as well as a link to Tony's write up. Let us know if there are any questions! Thank you. http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/?page_id=113

03-17-2010, 09:27 PM	#25
Soundwave Drives: Camaro SS(2)/RS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 451 View My Garage	This is an excellent write up. Used it today ad swapped out everything in 3 hours in my garage using jack stands. I put the 1" Eibachs on and the stance it PERFECT! Don't be afraid of this install because it' cake. Along the same skill level as an intake! Thanks for writing this!

04-02-2010, 12:04 AM	#26
OKCwhiteKnight Drives: 2010 2LT RS Camaro 2015 Colorado Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 725	Thanks for the info, installed my eibach pros today. I like the stance, I was kind of worried after I bought them, that there would not be enough drop.

08-15-2010, 03:57 PM	#27
GuidosCamaroSS Drives: 2010 Black Camaro SS/RS MTX Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 107	I just installed the pfadt springs...but i never cut the bump stops. is this absolutely neccessary?

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