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tooslow · 10-19-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rez333

But you're equally fooled by GM's PR because the ZL1 comes out one year later so of course will be faster than the CTS-V/GT500. However the 2013 GT500 comes out one year after the ZL1 and thus will be faster, and so on and so forth.

2012 ZL1 and 2013 GT500 will be hitting the showrooms just about the same time next year.

TaylorRyanSS · 10-19-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tooslow

2012 ZL1 and 2013 GT500 will be hitting the showrooms just about the same time next year.

Not really fair. I have noticed lately Ford has been releasing their cars super early. A 2013 in March/April of 2012? Thats the only way they will have the advantage over the ZL1 when it comes out. They do not want it to beat the GT500. Still needs to be compared to a 2012, or compare the 2013 ZL1 to the 2013 GT500.

wbt · 10-19-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

Not really fair. I have noticed lately Ford has been releasing their cars super early. A 2013 in March/April of 2012? Thats the only way they will have the advantage over the ZL1 when it comes out. They do not want it to beat the GT500. Still needs to be compared to a 2012, or compare the 2013 ZL1 to the 2013 GT500.

Tell that to your peers who constantly compare the 2011+ GT to the 2010+ SS.

Life isn't fair now is it?

8cd03gro · 10-19-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

Not really fair. I have noticed lately Ford has been releasing their cars super early. A 2013 in March/April of 2012? Thats the only way they will have the advantage over the ZL1 when it comes out. They do not want it to beat the GT500. Still needs to be compared to a 2012, or compare the 2013 ZL1 to the 2013 GT500.

Uhhh, why does the number matter if they're in showrooms at the same time? What if Ford had waited and just continued to call current GT500's 2011s until they release the next gen in 2012 and called it the 2012? The number doesn't matter at all. What matters is which cars will be for sale at the same time.

When the only new gt500 you can order in mid 2012 is a 2013 and the only zl1 you can order in mid 2012 is a 2012, why in god's name would anyone be comparing a year old used gt500 to a brand new, off the truck zl1? Simply because Ford decided to call theirs a 2013 and Chevy decided on 2012? If that's not grasping at straws I don't know what is.

tooslow · 10-19-2011, 05:30 PM

And for the record, Ford has not adjusted their Job 1 date in response to anything GM has done/is doing. The 2005 Mustang was available in the spring/summer of 2004. It's been on a regular release schedule for many years.

TaylorRyanSS · 10-19-2011, 05:34 PM

Because thats the only way Ford will stay on top. They are waiting for the ZL1 to come out and right when it does, they will have the new GT500 out. It seems thats the main reason Ford is releasing it so soon. What happened to the next model year coming out at the end of summer. It seems like they all used to do that. I am not saying it isn't a smart thing to do. In 2013 they will probably have a 2015 out already!

TaylorRyanSS · 10-19-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tooslow

And for the record, Ford has not adjusted their Job 1 date in response to anything GM has done/is doing. The 2005 Mustang was available in the spring/summer of 2004. It's been on a regular release schedule for many years.

I had a 2005 Mustang and got it in May of 2005. Are you sure they were made in 2004? I remember when I got it everyone would stare and take pics and stuff. I thought they started making it early 2005?

BigDan · 10-19-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

Not really fair. I have noticed lately Ford has been releasing their cars super early. A 2013 in March/April of 2012? Thats the only way they will have the advantage over the ZL1 when it comes out. They do not want it to beat the GT500. Still needs to be compared to a 2012, or compare the 2013 ZL1 to the 2013 GT500.

What planet are you living on?

As far back as I can remember most new model years always get released April/ May/ June the year before the MY.

"Not fair" Lolz

TaylorRyanSS · 10-19-2011, 05:58 PM

IDK I remember the next model year always coming out at the end of summer. The 2011 Camaro started production in June and went on sale July/August. To me, its odd to release a next model year so soon. Its not big deal to me, even if the 2013 GT500 is a better performer I will still be going with a ZL1 if I can afford it. If I cared that much about performance, I would have traded my SS for the "All-Mighty" 5.0.

ffrcobra_65 · 10-19-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

I had a 2005 Mustang and got it in May of 2005. Are you sure they were made in 2004? I remember when I got it everyone would stare and take pics and stuff. I thought they started making it early 2005?

but you are missing the...ahhh never mind. But as an example, this year, I bought a daily driver, a 2012 Honda Civic.

TaylorRyanSS · 10-19-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

but you are missing the...ahhh never mind. But as an example, this year, I bought a daily driver, a 2012 Honda Civic.

Huh?

I could never own a boring DD. I drove my grandmas 2010 civic last week to work to save gas and mileage on my car. Man is it boring, no power and I just felt so ordinary driving it. I did not feel like a car guy at all.

I do not see how people drive boring cars everyday!

tooslow · 10-19-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

I had a 2005 Mustang and got it in May of 2005. Are you sure they were made in 2004? I remember when I got it everyone would stare and take pics and stuff. I thought they started making it early 2005?

I had a 2005 Mustang, too. IIRC, the car was introduced at the North American Auto Show in January 2004, and went on sale that summer. I bought mine in September of 2004. Didn't keep it long though, I had ordered an automatic and ended up regretting the decision.

TaylorRyanSS · 10-19-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tooslow

I had a 2005 Mustang, too. IIRC, the car was introduced at the North American Auto Show in January 2004, and went on sale that summer. I bought mine in September of 2004. Didn't keep it long though, I had ordered an automatic and ended up regretting the decision.

Hmm thats weird. I did not see any on the road until the beginning of 2005. And when people saw my car they reacted to in a similar way as they did when the Camaro came out.

8cd03gro · 10-19-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

Because thats the only way Ford will stay on top. They are waiting for the ZL1 to come out and right when it does, they will have the new GT500 out. It seems thats the main reason Ford is releasing it so soon. What happened to the next model year coming out at the end of summer. It seems like they all used to do that. I am not saying it isn't a smart thing to do. In 2013 they will probably have a 2015 out already!

What? The ZL1 is extremely late for a 2012 model year vehicle to be released, the gt500 is not early as a 2013. Most of Chevrolet's lineup is called 2012 now...

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TaylorRyanSS COTW: 12/13/10 Drives: 1969 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 7,880	Because thats the only way Ford will stay on top. They are waiting for the ZL1 to come out and right when it does, they will have the new GT500 out. It seems thats the main reason Ford is releasing it so soon. What happened to the next model year coming out at the end of summer. It seems like they all used to do that. I am not saying it isn't a smart thing to do. In 2013 they will probably have a 2015 out already! __________________ "Are you one of those boys who prefer cars to women? - I'm one of those boys that appreciates a fine body, regardless of the make." 1969 CAMARO JOURNAL: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341239 \| FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/taylor.ryan.apt \| GRAPHIC DESIGN: www.aptdesigns.net

10-19-2011, 05:58 PM	#191
TaylorRyanSS COTW: 12/13/10 Drives: 1969 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 7,880	IDK I remember the next model year always coming out at the end of summer. The 2011 Camaro started production in June and went on sale July/August. To me, its odd to release a next model year so soon. Its not big deal to me, even if the 2013 GT500 is a better performer I will still be going with a ZL1 if I can afford it. If I cared that much about performance, I would have traded my SS for the "All-Mighty" 5.0. __________________ "Are you one of those boys who prefer cars to women? - I'm one of those boys that appreciates a fine body, regardless of the make." 1969 CAMARO JOURNAL: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341239 \| FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/taylor.ryan.apt \| GRAPHIC DESIGN: www.aptdesigns.net

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10-19-2011, 05:30 PM	#187
tooslow Banned Drives: 4 Wheels, Gasoline Engine Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,007	And for the record, Ford has not adjusted their Job 1 date in response to anything GM has done/is doing. The 2005 Mustang was available in the spring/summer of 2004. It's been on a regular release schedule for many years.