2012 AGP TT install Complete w/dyno!

[JM10]

L99 stock with AGP base kit
ZL1 pump
91 gas with meth
11psi




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[Unobtainium]

Originally Posted by killmode_on

No loaded type Dynojet vs. loaded.
Boost controller adjustment plays a huge roll on how early the gates start to open. Someone posted a dyno here not long ago that had 600tq through an auto at 3400 on a bone stock L99.

The ones I'm referring to are all on ADM's dyno jet.
The boost controller I would consider part of the tune.
The dynapack one looks much better. The L99 builds better torque stock, so no surprise there I guess. And 11psi too.
700wtq must be incredible. Certainly won't need gears!!!

[crankpin]

The spool of most of the s200-56 and the 51mm seems slow, but probably faster on the street. Can anyone post what their high gear logs show on the street for boost at certain rpms?

I have twin S300 60mm with .91 a/r on an 6.0 LQ4 (equiv of iron LS2, slightly lower compression) and in high gear I get
3psi at 3000rpm
5psi by 3350rpm

My setup is non-intercooled and carbed, but that shouldnt matter much. My boost readings are under the carb. Im not running a boost controller and am running a pretty light spring. (making 8psi on them)

My S300 turbos have 68mm turbines and S200 turbos have 61mm turbines so you'd think the S200s would typically spool much faster.

I want faster spool and am looking at the 56mm S200 but not sure if it does spool that much faster according to these graphs, but my experience on dynojets in the past has been slower spool than the cars have acted on the street.

Like I said if anyone could look in their logs from street driving and see what boost you have by 3000rpm in high gear from a roll on from about 2000rpm, that would be very interesting!

Thanks everyone for posting all the details and graphs, the AGP kits look very nice.

Thanks!

[Ben@AGP]

One of the things to also consider is boost vs. power. Most of these graphs aren't showing where boost is made, but rather showing where power (torque) is coming on. These changes can have more to do with engine setup, tune, and cam than the actual turbos.

You can have turbos make 10psi at 2500rpm, but your engine's natural torque curve isn't going to show that on a dyno graph.

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by Unobtainium

The ones I'm referring to are all on ADM's dyno jet.
The boost controller I would consider part of the tune.
The dynapack one looks much better. The L99 builds better torque stock, so no surprise there I guess. And 11psi too.
700wtq must be incredible. Certainly won't need gears!!!

So far we have done:

LS 376 AUTO 3200 STALL 9.0 COMPRESSION - BASE AGP KIT .58 AR REAL LAGGY

LS 417 AUTO 3600 STALL 10.5 COMPRESSION - BASE AGP KIT .58 AR A LITTLE LAGGY

LS 376 MANUAL STOCK WITH LS9 CAM - BASE KIT .58 AR A LITTLE LAGGY

LS 427 MANUAL 9.5 COMPRESSION LS9 CAM - SECOND TURBO UP .82 AR NOT LAGGY - WITH CUSTOM 2.5" TUBING TO THROTTLEBODY

LS 427 AUTO 9.75 COMPRESSION LS9 CAM - LARGEST TURBOS .82 AR(NOT FINISHED) WITH CUTOM 2.5" TUBING TO THROTTLEBODY

Overall we like the systems,just will continue fine tuning them to our liking

[Unobtainium]

Originally Posted by Ben@AGP

One of the things to also consider is boost vs. power. Most of these graphs aren't showing where boost is made, but rather showing where power (torque) is coming on. These changes can have more to do with engine setup, tune, and cam than the actual turbos.

You can have turbos make 10psi at 2500rpm, but your engine's natural torque curve isn't going to show that on a dyno graph.

Anybody that's seen a pd blower graph would argue that I think.

[Ben@AGP]

Originally Posted by Unobtainium

Anybody that's seen a pd blower graph would argue that I think.

I get what you're trying to say here, but natural torque curves of an air pump will play more of a roll in a torque graph than you may think. And other things to consider as well like surge for one example if you're getting a turbo to spool up too quickly.

[Ben@AGP]

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

So far we have done:

LS 376 AUTO 3200 STALL 9.0 COMPRESSION - BASE AGP KIT .58 AR REAL LAGGY

LS 417 AUTO 3600 STALL 10.5 COMPRESSION - BASE AGP KIT .58 AR A LITTLE LAGGY

LS 376 MANUAL STOCK WITH LS9 CAM - BASE KIT .58 AR A LITTLE LAGGY

LS 427 MANUAL 9.5 COMPRESSION LS9 CAM - SECOND TURBO UP .82 AR NOT LAGGY - WITH CUSTOM 2.5" TUBING TO THROTTLEBODY

LS 427 AUTO 9.75 COMPRESSION LS9 CAM - LARGEST TURBOS .82 AR(NOT FINISHED) WITH CUTOM 2.5" TUBING TO THROTTLEBODY

Overall we like the systems,just will continue fine tuning them to our liking

So you're saying these kits are real laggy? I've driven three of these cars that were built here locally and laggy has never even popped into my head. Or are you just saying on your dyno they are laggy?

[Levischilz]

I would not mind maybe 500 earlier boost but honestly im not setup ideal either nor probably tweaked to the bone. I will say if it was much more than that with the instant power they produce it would almost be way too much on the street. I feel like mine peak at the perfect spot or it would just be a traction fest.

[Ben@AGP]

Originally Posted by Levischilz

I would not mind maybe 500 earlier boost but honestly im not setup ideal either nor probably tweaked to the bone. I will say if it was much more than that with the instant power they produce it would almost be way too much on the street. I feel like mine peak at the perfect spot or it would just be a traction fest.

That's how we designed it, usable power.

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

[QUOTE=Ben@AGP;7095885]So you're saying these kits are real laggy? I've driven three of these cars that were built here locally and laggy has never even popped into my head. Or are you just saying on your dyno they are

Just want more early that's all

[Ben@AGP]

[QUOTE=ADM PERFORMANCE;7097875]

Originally Posted by Ben@AGP

So you're saying these kits are real laggy? I've driven three of these cars that were built here locally and laggy has never even popped into my head. Or are you just saying on your dyno they are

Just want more early that's all

I might try out some different, smaller turbo combos.

[Matt @ FSP]

If its on a non-loaded Dynojet it's going to seem laggy because there is no load cell you are only spinning a 2400lb roller (If its a 224x). We did the base turbos on the stock displacement that makes ridiculous torque at 3300rpm (14psi) on the dyno.

Also take into account these are the upgraded turbos too. As Levi said though its nice this way not a total test of how sideways you can go per gear

[Unobtainium]

Originally Posted by Matt @ FSP

If its on a non-loaded Dynojet it's going to seem laggy because there is no load cell you are only spinning a 2400lb roller (If its a 224x). We did the base turbos on the stock displacement that makes ridiculous torque at 3300rpm (14psi) on the dyno.

Also take into account these are the upgraded turbos too. As Levi said though its nice this way not a total test of how sideways you can go per gear

The more psi you allow, the better these turbos will work.
Yes, the unloaded Disneyjets are bad for building boost, and just in general.
I laughed when my little 2.0L rsx ran through 4th gear in 12 seconds on one.
Just the same as it does on the street
The loaded Mustang dyno I go to was only off by 3 seconds to the street!
The safest place to screw with a car is on the dyno, no street tuning needed..
Only street Tom foolery on the way home...
The funny thing is, the HPS fiasco was bad, but it seemed like they had the turbo selection nailed. Most of those cars were house pullers!
You want traction, build with a centri. Way simpler and I think more reliable if you don't want rip roaring torque with great top end.
It's up to us to support the tire manufacturers the best we can.
Just like gas. I pump a few liters on the ground when I'm done filling up just to keep things going! ( and keep it interesting for the smokers!)
Seriously though, nobody has a Mexico vid of this kit?