11-27-2013, 11:13 AM | #1 |
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102mm tpis TB worth it with twin turbos?
A quick question (maybe a dumb question) but upon research, typically I see these expensive throttle bodies with PD Superchargers vs Twin Turbo's. Im wondering does it even make sense purchasing? I was going to buy the FAST LSXr Intake Manifold and add a TPIS 102mm TB. I just dont want to waste any money if its not really need with a twin turbo set up.
I know FAST LSXr's intake could be considered a waste based off the gains but im mainly purchasing for looks since I found a good deal. Thanks
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11-27-2013, 11:17 AM | #2 |
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This imo is a yes/no question
it will pick up power but you might lose some driveability as the bigger tb's can be a pita to get right. You have twin turbo's helping you shove air in so why risk a loss in driveability for some hp that you probably won't feel. on a pd blower car they pick up a good amount because they need to take in as much air as possible to make the power. If your car was mine I would leave the stock tb/manifold on it you can port it if you want but i wouldn't do a fast setup. |
11-27-2013, 11:21 AM | #3 |
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Thanks man, thats what I figured but I wanted to assure myself
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11-27-2013, 04:41 PM | #4 |
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I agree with Joe above....
I still run the stock throttle body and intake manifold and make well, WELL in excess of 1000 RWHP... There are much better areas to spend your money and efforts.... Porting the factory manifold may net you some minor gains, but to me the only reason to change from the factory intake is if you are looking for substantially higher RPM power.... In that case, a large plenum, short runner sheet metal or billet intake is the way to go.... And by higher RPM,s I'm talking shift points well over 7000 rpm... 7500~~~+
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11-27-2013, 04:51 PM | #5 |
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Agreed upgrading intake manifold and throttle body on a TT car is money best spent elsewhere. Since you already have the lsxr manifold make sure that the bolts are torqued evenly on it.
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11-27-2013, 06:05 PM | #6 |
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Drivetrain, clutch, tires, meth, suspension, boost controller, etc. So many other things to spend money on. Like others have said, stock intake/tb has made 1600+rwhp so once you get to that level you can start thinking about how to get more power from a better intake/tb.
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11-27-2013, 08:01 PM | #7 |
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Thanks fellas, i kinda figured but just needed some clarity! Appreciate it
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11-28-2013, 09:59 AM | #8 |
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I ran NW102mm on my set up. I can't tell what the difference is between stock and this one, because I went with 102mm with my new engine.
Took a while to tune the drivability, but drives nice now. My set up is north of 1000RWHP.
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11-28-2013, 11:16 AM | #9 |
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I've tuned 3 NW102s, and they all drove better than stock once done. Better throttle response, and better idle with big cams. Yes they take some adjustment but once done it was better than stock. The original ones that used c5 electronics were a bitch but the newer ones have no issues in my experience.
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11-28-2013, 01:43 PM | #11 |
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I say just go for it and give us feedback.
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With a blow through...save your money for something that will actually help power, and not have a negative effect on low end driveability http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=619667 |
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