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huitt06 · 05-30-2014, 01:56 AM

Talking to ADM about the gt 11 cam with heads. Thoughts and are heads worth it? 1000 dollar difference.

axis · 05-30-2014, 02:42 AM

If you're going to go H/C, look no further than GPI. Rhino79 is the VVT guru. 11's are easy with a L99. How deep into the 11's do you want to go? Pretty much any of his cams will get you in there. If you want to go all out, he can give you the recipe for 10's.

VADER SS L99 · 05-30-2014, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by huitt06

Talking to ADM about the gt 11 cam with heads. Thoughts and are heads worth it? 1000 dollar difference.

Heads are worth it for any l99 getting a cam upgrade but I would recommend going the supercharger route. A simple TVS supercharger will get you 500RWHP and 500RWTQ with lots of torque everywhere and better than OEM drive ability. The drive ability with the GT11 is just as good as OEM but will not give nearly the torque. GT11 cam with heads will give a L99 about 440-450RWHP and around 400RWTQ. That's a pretty big difference in power vs a supercharger kit. I myself did a GT11 cam, heads and stall at the same time and I regret not getting supercharger package instead for the same money.

If you do decide to get a cam I would not recommend the GT11. It is built on LSK lobes and has very high lift. In other words it's harder on the valve train then most other street cams. Brian Tooley a valve train expert guru and even COMP themselves don't recommend a cam built on LSK lobes for street use. No matter what anyone says don't use 15w-50 oil either in a stock short block LSx. In fact if you decide to get the cam/heads I would recommend getting a VVT cam package from GPI and having a longer road trip. If you decide to go the supercharger route I'm sure ADM will do you great.

huitt06 · 05-30-2014, 07:24 AM

Considering tsp vvt 3 h/c kit because only hour away. .. but ecs has good deal on install and kit for sc...decisions decisions

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huitt06 · 05-30-2014, 11:33 PM

Kinda priced around today and and I can get tsp vvt 3 w/o heads for around 3500-4 installed and tuned. SC gonna run up over 7 . Feeling the n/a route , any cons ?

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nate-roth · 05-31-2014, 12:10 AM

I used to live in Odessa, the DA is not good there. I had a GT500 that would hit 14lbs in Houston. When I moved to Odessa I was lucky to see 11lbs, car felt much slower. So the supercharger will suffer too from the elevation unless pullied down.

May want to look into a turbo kit or nitrous. Turbo kit will spool to whatever boost it set for and nitrous wont be affected much by elevation.

A turbonetics kit can be had under $6k right now and you could probably install yourself.

bgallegos · 05-31-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by huitt06

Kinda priced around today and and I can get tsp vvt 3 w/o heads for around 3500-4 installed and tuned. SC gonna run up over 7 . Feeling the n/a route , any cons ?

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Sorry for the off subject post,but im from Hobbs nm and im looking for a dependable shop in the area & thats not a bad price can you tell me what shop quoted you that?

62nalide · 05-31-2014, 01:51 PM

Just look at WHO has gotten the most L99s in the 11s without a cam.
You wanna go fast go with a VVT cam.

huitt06 · 05-31-2014, 04:29 PM

It was a shop in seminole....s/a performance. ..ya I like gpi cams, just wish he were closer lol

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halo8hkk · 06-02-2014, 08:40 AM

whipple!!!!

SS PANTHER · 06-02-2014, 04:05 PM

SC would make more power in general, be a better, more reliable daily driver without any mpg lost. It would be easier to smog if that's a concern. Also, if you ever decided to sell the car or the SC it would be easier and bring more money than a used cam and heads.

05-30-2014, 01:56 AM	#15
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	Talking to ADM about the gt 11 cam with heads. Thoughts and are heads worth it? 1000 dollar difference. __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

05-30-2014, 02:42 AM	#16
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	If you're going to go H/C, look no further than GPI. Rhino79 is the VVT guru. 11's are easy with a L99. How deep into the 11's do you want to go? Pretty much any of his cams will get you in there. If you want to go all out, he can give you the recipe for 10's. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

05-30-2014, 07:24 AM	#18
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	Considering tsp vvt 3 h/c kit because only hour away. .. but ecs has good deal on install and kit for sc...decisions decisions Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

05-30-2014, 11:33 PM	#19
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	Kinda priced around today and and I can get tsp vvt 3 w/o heads for around 3500-4 installed and tuned. SC gonna run up over 7 . Feeling the n/a route , any cons ? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

05-31-2014, 01:51 PM	#22
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	Just look at WHO has gotten the most L99s in the 11s without a cam. You wanna go fast go with a VVT cam. __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

05-31-2014, 12:10 AM	#20
nate-roth Drives: 2013 SIM SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Odessa, Tx Posts: 5	I used to live in Odessa, the DA is not good there. I had a GT500 that would hit 14lbs in Houston. When I moved to Odessa I was lucky to see 11lbs, car felt much slower. So the supercharger will suffer too from the elevation unless pullied down. May want to look into a turbo kit or nitrous. Turbo kit will spool to whatever boost it set for and nitrous wont be affected much by elevation. A turbonetics kit can be had under $6k right now and you could probably install yourself.

05-31-2014, 04:29 PM	#23
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	It was a shop in seminole....s/a performance. ..ya I like gpi cams, just wish he were closer lol Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

06-02-2014, 08:40 AM	#24
halo8hkk Drives: 2000 Z28. 2010 1SS IMB. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,081	whipple!!!! __________________ 1990 RS = First Car -SOLD 2000 Z28 = SOLD 2010 1SS/RS = Mysstique Whipple Supercharger Dyno= 618hp 555tq at the wheels IMB Silver Stripes VIN#44025 Born: 9/9/09 Delivered: 9/28/09

06-02-2014, 04:05 PM	#25
SS PANTHER Drives: 2013 SS Supercharged Convertible Join Date: May 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,714	SC would make more power in general, be a better, more reliable daily driver without any mpg lost. It would be easier to smog if that's a concern. Also, if you ever decided to sell the car or the SC it would be easier and bring more money than a used cam and heads.