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Old 03-26-2014, 06:21 PM   #15
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Recently did lowering springs on my SS (BMR Split Drop 1.4/1.0 kit) and love the new stance... car looks like it's crouching in the garage waiting to pounce now. And while technically it's for better cornering, I personally did it just for looks. Headers with the No Weeds diverters are in my future but probably a little ways out given the cost.
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:31 PM   #16
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suspension mods are not just for cornering, trailing arms, toe links, diff cover, poly bushings, billet end caps, eaton differential, sway bars etc and a lot of other things help the car get grip and not wheel hop when you get on it and have increased horsepower or just the stock horsepower and get the power to the ground.
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:37 PM   #17
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Since you have the LLT engine I'd recommend getting a Black Ice-Olator, or the Mace Engineering version. It's another great bang for the buck mod for us V6ers.

If you are looking into suspension, sway bars and lowering springs are rather cheap and will have a big impact.
This is probably the only mod that I don't know what it exactly does haha
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:46 PM   #18
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Mods make my car special, just like everybody else's!
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:51 PM   #19
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Actually, if we want to be 'technical' I'd say that every internal combustion car has a header- the header pipe. "Headers" is a shortened version of "tubular headers" in which each individual exhaust port in effect has it's own head pipe. As mentioned, this is a replacement for an exhaust manifold. I've heard some people say "what are you talking about, tubular headers? My car has headers"- that's how common "headers" has become.

Long tube or full-length refers to the length of the overal tubular header, and they are fairly long and end in a 'collector' that the individual pipes go into so they can be hooked up to your (now shortened) head pipe or pipes. "Shortpipe headers" or "Shorties" are typically much easier to install and more or less mimic the exhaust manifold. Long tube headers sometimes even require judicious denting of a tube or two and require some odd contortions for installation. I had to do that on my '70 Buick, for the steering shaft. Let me tell you, those big tube full length headers are one tight fit! I have to unbolt the engine mounts from the block in that car to remove the engine and then unbolt the headers- it is simply not coming out any other way with those headers in there. There's not enough tilt in the world to pull it with those things attached. Installing the engine the first time with them was quite a contest of will. Turns out if you're willing to jam your arm in there deep enough....

Traditionally short tube headers offer no real performance benefit, but I do think that any better exhaust scavenging will support more power

I have a great solution for "modding-itis". Start collecting vintage firearms. You won't have any money for mods.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:27 PM   #20
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if you want to save money, have a moderator delete your account and remove this site from your favorites. Coming here will cost you every penny you make. Ask anyone that has been here for a year. You start out with a CAI, end up with all new suspension components, headers, super chargers, turbos, redone interior..and it just keeps on going.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:23 AM   #21
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Actually, if we want to be 'technical' I'd say that every internal combustion car has a header- the header pipe. "Headers" is a shortened version of "tubular headers" in which each individual exhaust port in effect has it's own head pipe. As mentioned, this is a replacement for an exhaust manifold. I've heard some people say "what are you talking about, tubular headers? My car has headers"- that's how common "headers" has become.

Long tube or full-length refers to the length of the overal tubular header, and they are fairly long and end in a 'collector' that the individual pipes go into so they can be hooked up to your (now shortened) head pipe or pipes. "Shortpipe headers" or "Shorties" are typically much easier to install and more or less mimic the exhaust manifold. Long tube headers sometimes even require judicious denting of a tube or two and require some odd contortions for installation. I had to do that on my '70 Buick, for the steering shaft. Let me tell you, those big tube full length headers are one tight fit! I have to unbolt the engine mounts from the block in that car to remove the engine and then unbolt the headers- it is simply not coming out any other way with those headers in there. There's not enough tilt in the world to pull it with those things attached. Installing the engine the first time with them was quite a contest of will. Turns out if you're willing to jam your arm in there deep enough....

Traditionally short tube headers offer no real performance benefit, but I do think that any better exhaust scavenging will support more power

I have a great solution for "modding-itis". Start collecting vintage firearms. You won't have any money for mods.
Firearms dont loose their value either, typically they actually go up about 2% a year
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:33 AM   #22
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I've seen several people mention suspension and long tubes as mods for the Camaro. But what do these mods do for you?

For example, does the suspension mod make for a smoother ride or something else?
A good suspension mod will help make the car perform better without turning the ride quality "harsh". Firm is different, and in most cases unavoidable. Maybe think 1LE vs base SS, with the 1LE being Chevy's in-house suspension mod package here. And like the 1LE, a good aftermarket-based suspension mod package will be at its best with a wider wheel and performance tire upgrade. Throw in a more performance-oriented alignment to best use those tires, but fit that to your driving instead of getting carried away with more hardcore settings than your driving needs.

Flatter cornering probably shouldn't be the main intention, at most maybe an expected consequence of nimbler and more composed handling.

If you're getting the idea that getting the most out of your suspension mod dollars doesn't stop at bolting a few suspension parts on the car and calling it done, you're on the right track.


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Old 10-08-2014, 06:03 PM   #23
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Since you have the LLT engine, I would hold off on the headers until HP tuners comes out with their new tunes.

Why you say that? As for the mods with my full suspension upgrade it makes me drive even more than I normally would.


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Old 10-08-2014, 07:19 PM   #24
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:55 PM   #25
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:35 AM   #26
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Willpower! My god, don't you people have any willpower?
Certainly....we will do everything in our power to get that next mod.....
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Old 10-09-2014, 12:44 PM   #27
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The biggest impact to the look of your car would most likely be aftermarket rims/tires and lowering springs. The springs definitely make the ride stiffer and will not impress most ladies (not mine anyways since she sits in the back while our tall son sits in the front!!). Besides the performance aspect for me, the look of the lowered car is quite impressive when it sits next to one that isn't lowered (check wheel well space).

I also may make different decisions on mods depending on if I had a V6 or V8. Since I had the V8, I went all out. But my brother has the V6 Synergy Green ('10) and the only thing he has done was the front plate disappearing electric kit. I think his car would look even more badass with aftermarket rims/tires, but it is only important to what you want.
You can also make the V6 to go faster then alot of the V8's if so desired. That may be even more impressive since it is not done no where near as often as modding the V8.
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