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Kevinshawnm · 01-02-2015, 08:07 PM

I had blown the 3 10w3's long ago. I'm now thinking of replacing them with 3 10W6V3-D4's. I know these only require .55 cu ft per sub; however would the sub clear depth wise, has anyone tried this yet?

Kevinshawnm · 01-03-2015, 12:33 PM

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Kevinshawnm · 01-09-2015, 05:34 PM

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Deftones · 01-09-2015, 05:52 PM

Compare the specs on the subs, it's that easy.

EALVAR · 01-10-2015, 02:53 AM

Wow... you may want to check the gains on your amp, or get a better amps. The W3 can handle a lot of power, however, if you're amp is underpowerd and you're sending a clipped signal you will fry voice coils.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-rSL82gN...subs-blow.html

Pop: A clipped signal tries to move the cone too quickly
First, what’s a clipped signal?
Clipping a signal, or squaring its waveform, occurs when the volume of a source signal exceeds the electronic capability of a circuit. Let's say our amplifier can't play a signal more powerful than what voltage V1 can produce. If we tried to increase the volume at the source, the amplifier wouldn't produce more voltage, it would distort the signal, eventually into the form of a square wave.

You will notice that the sides of the clipped signal are vertical. That means that the signal will try to move the sub's cone from all the way forward (point E) to all the way to the rear (F) in zero amount of time, travelling at the speed of infinity. Nothing travels that fast, and the sub either tears itself apart trying, or the flapping cone wobbles just enough to jam the coil in the magnet's voice coil gap, killing the sub.

Sizzle: A clipped signal also tells the voice coil to hold still and heat up
The other parts of a square wave, the top and bottom, are horizontal lines that represent the times the signal is telling the cone to stay all the way forward or all the way back. Current flowing through a stationary coil only heats up the coil, which doesn't even benefit from a cooling breeze due to movement. The coil usually burns through one or more of its windings, or heats up enough to deform its shape so that it jams in the magnet's voice coil gap.

There's another, more complex reason voice coils burn when subjected to over-driven, clipped signals. A square wave carries twice the RMS power of a sine wave of the same amplitude (height). So not only is the signal telling the voice coil to pop into a position and sizzle, it's doing it with almost twice the power of the sub's maximum capacity. Usually, it's the glue holding the coil wire to the former that first melts under all the heat, and the coil crashes in its gap.

Under-powering leads to more blown subs than over-powering does
Low volume will not hurt a sub – distortion will. It isn't loudness that destroys an under-powered sub, it's trying to get bass volume by turning up a distorting receiver that does it. Subs are made to withstand a lot more than their specified RMS ratings, so giving them a little more than their highest RMS rating is safe, as long as it's clean and distortion-free.

Knockoutpie · 01-10-2015, 10:47 AM

Make sure your wiring is correct too man. I don't see how one of those subs can blow. They're well made too :/ you're doing something wrong. The last sub I blew was a 1979 crunch 6" subwoofer.

kmart · 01-10-2015, 02:01 PM

yes i agree what is your set up yo u may be clipping the signal and or major distortion. check your wiring also. is this what you are using #SB-GM-CTRIP/10TW3/UF that is the model of jl bauxite or are you using a custom built one either way if you are at 55cu you should be fine thats going to be either wire issue under power or way way over power issue those subs can take a beating and can supply plenty of sound aka bass for average person http://www.jlaudio.com/sb-gm-ctrip-1...ealthbox-94602

cmracing · 01-10-2015, 02:25 PM

Did anyone fool with the internal wiring for the speakers? If you put two of them out of phase with each other they will cancel each other out leading you to increase the volume to get them to where you want to be, but doing so you drive the crap out of the amp and probably run into clipping like mentioned above.

01-02-2015, 08:07 PM	#1
Kevinshawnm Biggz Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS L99 Rally Yellow Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Richmond, Indiana Posts: 567	JL Audio 3 10" Stealth enclosure. I had blown the 3 10w3's long ago. I'm now thinking of replacing them with 3 10W6V3-D4's. I know these only require .55 cu ft per sub; however would the sub clear depth wise, has anyone tried this yet?

01-09-2015, 05:52 PM	#4
Deftones Drives: 2012 RS/SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 873	Compare the specs on the subs, it's that easy. __________________

01-10-2015, 10:47 AM	#6
Knockoutpie Drives: 2014 2SS RS Coupe Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,454	Make sure your wiring is correct too man. I don't see how one of those subs can blow. They're well made too :/ you're doing something wrong. The last sub I blew was a 1979 crunch 6" subwoofer. __________________

01-10-2015, 02:01 PM	#7
kmart Drives: 2010 Camaro Cyber Grey 2ss Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 52	yes i agree what is your set up yo u may be clipping the signal and or major distortion. check your wiring also. is this what you are using #SB-GM-CTRIP/10TW3/UF that is the model of jl bauxite or are you using a custom built one either way if you are at 55cu you should be fine thats going to be either wire issue under power or way way over power issue those subs can take a beating and can supply plenty of sound aka bass for average person http://www.jlaudio.com/sb-gm-ctrip-1...ealthbox-94602 __________________ Tuned by FSP Matt Sorian matt@floridaspeedandpower.com car built by ADM J-rod maintained No Dyno Queen Here

01-03-2015, 12:33 PM	#2
Kevinshawnm Biggz Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS L99 Rally Yellow Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Richmond, Indiana Posts: 567	????

01-09-2015, 05:34 PM	#3
Kevinshawnm Biggz Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS L99 Rally Yellow Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Richmond, Indiana Posts: 567	?

01-10-2015, 02:53 AM	#5
EALVAR Drives: '11 1LT RS, '13 2LT SS Dusk Edition Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 19	Wow... you may want to check the gains on your amp, or get a better amps. The W3 can handle a lot of power, however, if you're amp is underpowerd and you're sending a clipped signal you will fry voice coils. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-rSL82gN...subs-blow.html Pop: A clipped signal tries to move the cone too quickly First, what’s a clipped signal? Clipping a signal, or squaring its waveform, occurs when the volume of a source signal exceeds the electronic capability of a circuit. Let's say our amplifier can't play a signal more powerful than what voltage V1 can produce. If we tried to increase the volume at the source, the amplifier wouldn't produce more voltage, it would distort the signal, eventually into the form of a square wave. You will notice that the sides of the clipped signal are vertical. That means that the signal will try to move the sub's cone from all the way forward (point E) to all the way to the rear (F) in zero amount of time, travelling at the speed of infinity. Nothing travels that fast, and the sub either tears itself apart trying, or the flapping cone wobbles just enough to jam the coil in the magnet's voice coil gap, killing the sub. Sizzle: A clipped signal also tells the voice coil to hold still and heat up The other parts of a square wave, the top and bottom, are horizontal lines that represent the times the signal is telling the cone to stay all the way forward or all the way back. Current flowing through a stationary coil only heats up the coil, which doesn't even benefit from a cooling breeze due to movement. The coil usually burns through one or more of its windings, or heats up enough to deform its shape so that it jams in the magnet's voice coil gap. There's another, more complex reason voice coils burn when subjected to over-driven, clipped signals. A square wave carries twice the RMS power of a sine wave of the same amplitude (height). So not only is the signal telling the voice coil to pop into a position and sizzle, it's doing it with almost twice the power of the sub's maximum capacity. Usually, it's the glue holding the coil wire to the former that first melts under all the heat, and the coil crashes in its gap. Under-powering leads to more blown subs than over-powering does Low volume will not hurt a sub – distortion will. It isn't loudness that destroys an under-powered sub, it's trying to get bass volume by turning up a distorting receiver that does it. Subs are made to withstand a lot more than their specified RMS ratings, so giving them a little more than their highest RMS rating is safe, as long as it's clean and distortion-free.

01-10-2015, 02:25 PM	#8
cmracing Drives: 2014 RS/SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 191	Did anyone fool with the internal wiring for the speakers? If you put two of them out of phase with each other they will cancel each other out leading you to increase the volume to get them to where you want to be, but doing so you drive the crap out of the amp and probably run into clipping like mentioned above.