[BigEnos]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

It doesn't need a "better transmission". Even a rear gear swap (few hundred bucks) will do that. But, it depends on what tracks you run if you'd wanna do that in the first place...

Hard to say if a rear gear swap with the eLSD will be just a few hundred bucks. I know it's just a mechanical LSD in the middle with a ring and pinion, but who knows what they did to integrate the package?

[f300v10]

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

As much as I would love to say the new goodyears are up to par with the Cup 2's that was proved wrong to me with the C&D tests. the 1LE did 1.11 G's in turn 1 while the Grand Sport on Cup 2's did 1.19, and the GT350R did 1.18 I believe, the Cup 2 is just a cut above! But that's why they are like $500 a peice haha especially for 305s!

You can't really compare lateral grip between tires on different chassis. The GS has a lower CG, and more balanced weight distribution than the 1LE, and wider rear tires, all of which effect lateral grip.

On page 37 C&D lists the all time top turn 1 lateral acceleration:

Z06 -> 1.20
GS -> 1.19
Molser -> 1.16
Z/28, 918 -> 1.16
GT-R/Nismo, Viper ACR -> 1.15
911 GT3RS -> 1.14
Hurican -> 1.13
F12, Viper TA, 488 and SS 1LE -> 1.11

If they list what the GT350 pulled I can't find it, but given its not in the above list, its less than the SS 1LE. The Goodyears are holding their own, matching the 488 on Sport cup 2's, and ahead of the GT350, M4 GTS and Caymen GT4 all of which are also on Cup 2s.

[BigEnos]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

And also pick up everything on the ground, are notoriously dangerous in wet/cold conditions and don't last as long... You gotta pay to play, even on tread and compound.

They're a great tire, but you will sacrifice some things for them on a DD car.

The Bridgestone RE-71R is amazing in the wet. Very few street tires are better. I'd have no qualms about reasonably cool weather either.

[crankaholic]

Originally Posted by f300v10

You can't really compare lateral grip between tires on different chassis. The GS has a lower CG, and more balanced weight distribution than the 1LE, and wider rear tires, all of which effect lateral grip.

On page 37 C&D lists the all time top turn 1 lateral acceleration:

Z06 -> 1.20
GS -> 1.19
Molser -> 1.16
Z/28, 918 -> 1.16
GT-R/Nismo, Viper ACR -> 1.15
911 GT3RS -> 1.14
Hurican -> 1.13
F12, Viper TA, 488 and SS 1LE -> 1.11

If they list what the GT350 pulled I can't find it, but given its not in the above list, its less than the SS 1LE. The Goodyears are holding their own, matching the 488 on Sport cup 2's, and ahead of the GT350, M4 GTS and Caymen GT4 all of which are also on Cup 2s.

The GT350R pulled 1.18g I believe.

[f300v10]

Originally Posted by crankaholic

The GT350R pulled 1.18g I believe.

If it did, then why did C&D leave it off the all time list? 1.18 would put the GT350 third on their all time list, and it's not on it. I'm not sure where the 1.18 comes from but its not the Lightning lap article. In fact C&D states that the GT350 had less grip in turn 1 than the Z/28:

"But in Turn 1, the GT350 can't match the Z/28's grip".

Given the Z/28 'only' pulled 1.16, and the GT350 is less than that, the GT350 can't have pulled 1.18. And since it didn't make the all time list, what ever it pulled was less than 1.11. That or C&D screwed up and omitted it which I doubt. I found the table in the web article on this page: http://www.caranddriver.com/features...d-more-feature and the GT350 isn't listed on the web page either. Here is a copy of the table:

Highest Grip in Horse Shoe (Turn 1) On Record, g

2015 Chevy Corvette Z06
1.20
2017 Chevy Corvette Grand Sport
1.19
2009 Mosler MT900S
1.16
2015 Chevy Camaro Z/28
1.16
2015 Porsche 918
1.16
2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO
1.15
2016 Dodge Viper ACR
1.15
2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
1.14
2015 Lambo Huracán LP610-4
1.13
2014 Ferrari F12
1.11
2014 SRT Viper TA
1.11
2017 Chevy Camaro SS 1LE
1.11
2016 Ferrari 488GTB
1.11

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by BigEnos

The Bridgestone RE-71R is amazing in the wet. Very few street tires are better. I'd have no qualms about reasonably cool weather either.

Thanks, appreciate that.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

There's been no official numbers released yet for braking, only the GM ones which are worse than what MT and others get in their testing. Unless something has just been released I haven't seen before.

Example:
GM - 60-0=117 ft
MT - 60-0=104 ft

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

According to this MT article: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...et-audi-acura/

"Not only did the SS 1LE set new all-time Camaro records (braking, skidpad, figure eight), but it also lowered the Camaro’s lap time around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca, beating those heavy hitters, the 2012 Camaro ZL1 and 2014 Camaro Z/28."

Seems it just may benefit from a simple fluid or pad upgrade, which is common and typical for anyone tracking a car...

Ok, that helps. Maybe once the numbers are shown from Motortrend things will be more in line.

[shaffe]

That is an impressive lap for the 1LE that is for sure!

Shocked he mentioned that the brakes started to fade, that shocked me.

[b4z]

I've had terrible luck with Goodyears the last 15 years. Everything firm impalas to 4 caddy SRXs to GTOs. Most were unable to be balanced. I switched to continentals, bridgestones and Michelins. The Michelins have been perfect in correcting vibrations.

[b4z]

Originally Posted by shaffe

That is an impressive lap for the 1LE that is for sure!

Shocked he mentioned that the brakes started to fade, that shocked me.

Possibly either pad knock back or the car is so quick now that it does need bigger rotors, etc.

[b4z]

Originally Posted by BigEnos

The Bridgestone RE-71R is amazing in the wet. Very few street tires are better. I'd have no qualms about reasonably cool weather either.

Not as good as the re11 was in the wet though.

[backeddy]

Shocked he mentioned that the brakes started to fade, that shocked me.

Yep that killed it for me....I spent $7500+ on my last 1LE to finally come up with a good solution at the track....Not doing that again!

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by backeddy

Yep that killed it for me....I spent $7500+ on my last 1LE to finally come up with a good solution at the track....Not doing that again!

It's only 100-130 lbs lighter than the last gen.

Which actually is a lot lighter lol. But for the lap time put forth I can make an exception and do a little work to it to make it where I want it. Nothing some better lines, brake fluid, pads, can't change anyway.


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[mcsoul]

I wonder if they properly glazed the brakes and put the cooling fins in?