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Q-ship · 07-14-2009, 12:58 AM

On just released vehicles and new design engines or transmissions it is SOP to just replace and not repair any faulty engine or transmissions (even a leak may get you a new component) for GM. They usually want the engine/trans back for inspection, it has been this way since the mid 1990's.

Vash · 07-14-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Q-ship

On just released vehicles and new design engines or transmissions it is SOP to just replace and not repair any faulty engine or transmissions (even a leak may get you a new component) for GM. They usually want the engine/trans back for inspection, it has been this way since the mid 1990's.

It's not that it's that you have to gut all the parts out of the tranny to put that one in. If it was something they could swap they would just send the smaller part. Shipping is $$$ expensive for a tranny.

AnOlaHic · 07-14-2009, 09:48 AM

Took my Camaro in for its first oil change July 10th, had them look into a sound I had noticed when letting out the clutch in 1st and 2nd. Shortly after found out I needed a new transmission. A problem with the transmission output shaft having to much play, second one my dealership caught. Tranny arrived today, however I am waiting on a technicain to fly in from Vancouver later today to take a look at the car. vin# 14368

nuptualnemesis · 08-04-2009, 10:59 AM

Broke my output shaft Sunday night. Vin 13782. Third or fourth launch in competition mode. Also made three or four with traction control and competition mode turned off between 2500 and 3500 rpm. I am afraid this is not limited to a certain batch of vehicles. 4200 rpm dumps too much energy into the drive train. I don't think ABS kicking in to limit wheel spin can help either. ABS is supposed to be less aggressive in competition mode. ABS may kick in too soon and be part of the problem. I think competition mode will break any drive train sooner or later.

This appears to be similar to the problem they had with the Nissan GT-R last year. They soon said use of launch mode on solid surface voids warranty. They said it was only for getting out of ice or slippery surface. This year they reduced rev limiter from around 4200 to 3200 rpm.

DON'T USE COMPETITION MODE. You don't need it. Turn it and traction control off by holding button down for seven seconds. Launch between 3000 and 3200 rpm by driving out. Don't dump clutch but don't slip it either. CAUTION: slipping the clutch will burn up the clutch. Let clutch out like taking off from a stop and press gas pedal like taking off from a stop, don't stomp it. This should be much easier on entire drive line and will help 60 foot times.

I love my car but I am holding on to my JD Powers new car survey to see how long this takes to be repaired. More than a week is too long. If you haven't returned your survey yet, you may want to hold onto it.

VicoryCamaro · 10-22-2009, 01:14 PM

Just Broke my axle trying to do a burnout...dealer will not cover it because they said the vehicle was abused...what should i do from here?

ffrcobra_65 · 10-22-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VicoryCamaro

Just Broke my axle trying to do a burnout...dealer will not cover it because they said the vehicle was abused...what should i do from here?

and how do they know you were abusing it? If they are defining a burn out as Abuse, I guess we are all guilty. Ask to speak to the GM rep in the area.

PNY KLR · 10-22-2009, 04:43 PM

mine broke saturday but my whole driveshaft dropped out and now they are sending the driveshaft to a engineer to determine if i abused it or not????
Shouldnt these high end sports cars be able to take this why is this happening???

3 SS's · 10-22-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VicoryCamaro

Just Broke my axle trying to do a burnout...dealer will not cover it because they said the vehicle was abused...what should i do from here?

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Originally Posted by PNY KLR

mine broke saturday but my whole driveshaft dropped out and now they are sending the drivshaft to a engineer to determine if i abused it or not????
Shouldnt these high end sports cars be able to take this why is this happening???

This whole output shaft crap....is exactly that...... crap !!

GM still hasn't stepped up on this...unless I missed it.
So... I guess we can't get on these cars to see if it's an affected shaft, because then we'll be "abusing our cars", meanwile GM won't tell us if our cars fall into the vin range affected.

camaro5 · 10-22-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 3 SS's

This whole output shaft crap....is exactly that crap

GM still hasn't stepped up on this... unless I missed it.
So... I guess we can't get on these cars to see if it's an affected shaft, because then we'll be "abusing our cars", meanwile GM won't tell us if our cars fall into the vin range affected.

Nope, there's nothing to miss.

I'd rather not buy a Camaro that cannot safely burn rubber and remain under warranty, if that indeed is the case.

3 SS's · 10-23-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro5

Nope, there's nothing to miss.

I'd rather not buy a Camaro that cannot safely burn rubber and remain under warranty, if that indeed is the case.

Looks like the my no koolaid avatar will never be replaced

JP2010SS · 10-25-2009, 11:09 PM

I just broke mine. Input or output shaft.

camaro5 · 10-25-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JP2010SS

I just broke mine. Input or output shaft.

Could you please post your vin range.

I'm hoping they've fixed this on later cars.

RoyalKev · 10-25-2009, 11:57 PM

I guess i broke mine to 2G1FT1EW1A9114402 is my vin and its a m6

Supermans · 10-26-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 3 SS's

This whole output shaft crap....is exactly that...... crap !!

GM still hasn't stepped up on this...unless I missed it.
So... I guess we can't get on these cars to see if it's an affected shaft, because then we'll be "abusing our cars", meanwile GM won't tell us if our cars fall into the vin range affected.

Everybody at GM should really understand that they are screwing over ENTHUSIASTS here for the most part by keeping a lid on this and denying warranty's for some of these with defective units. By now, a list of all the affected range of these "bad batch" of units should be out. This whole issue of "We aint fixing it till its broke", oh and "we may deny the claim because you abused the car" for a broken output shaft is also crap. I called up GM's customer service with my concerns and no call back as of yet with any response.

My VIN is in the 22517 range..Has anyone had this issue in this range?

08-04-2009, 10:59 AM	#46
nuptualnemesis NuptualNemesis Drives: Silver 1SS M6 - 480hp 11.57/120.79 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA www.Divorcefor399.com Posts: 310 View My Garage	Broken Transmission Output Shaft Broke my output shaft Sunday night. Vin 13782. Third or fourth launch in competition mode. Also made three or four with traction control and competition mode turned off between 2500 and 3500 rpm. I am afraid this is not limited to a certain batch of vehicles. 4200 rpm dumps too much energy into the drive train. I don't think ABS kicking in to limit wheel spin can help either. ABS is supposed to be less aggressive in competition mode. ABS may kick in too soon and be part of the problem. I think competition mode will break any drive train sooner or later. This appears to be similar to the problem they had with the Nissan GT-R last year. They soon said use of launch mode on solid surface voids warranty. They said it was only for getting out of ice or slippery surface. This year they reduced rev limiter from around 4200 to 3200 rpm. DON'T USE COMPETITION MODE. You don't need it. Turn it and traction control off by holding button down for seven seconds. Launch between 3000 and 3200 rpm by driving out. Don't dump clutch but don't slip it either. CAUTION: slipping the clutch will burn up the clutch. Let clutch out like taking off from a stop and press gas pedal like taking off from a stop, don't stomp it. This should be much easier on entire drive line and will help 60 foot times. I love my car but I am holding on to my JD Powers new car survey to see how long this takes to be repaired. More than a week is too long. If you haven't returned your survey yet, you may want to hold onto it. Last edited by nuptualnemesis; 08-05-2009 at 08:56 AM.

10-22-2009, 04:43 PM	#49
PNY KLR Drives: 2010 Camaro ss/rs #1297 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Regina, Sask. Posts: 39	mine broke saturday but my whole driveshaft dropped out and now they are sending the driveshaft to a engineer to determine if i abused it or not???? Shouldnt these high end sports cars be able to take this why is this happening??? __________________ Own - 2010 2SS/RS SIM Racing Stripes - 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland - 1957 Chevy 2 Dr Coupe Owned - 92 Z-24 - 95 Saturn - 89 Toyota Supra - 85 Toyota 1/4 Ton - 64 Chevy Nova 2 Dr Sport coupe (First Car 3 on the tree) Last edited by PNY KLR; 10-22-2009 at 07:45 PM.

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07-14-2009, 12:58 AM	#43
Q-ship Drives: 1968 Chevelle, 1971 Monte Join Date: May 2009 Location: Peoples Socialist Republic of California Posts: 107	On just released vehicles and new design engines or transmissions it is SOP to just replace and not repair any faulty engine or transmissions (even a leak may get you a new component) for GM. They usually want the engine/trans back for inspection, it has been this way since the mid 1990's.

07-14-2009, 09:48 AM	#45
AnOlaHic Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Posts: 1	Took my Camaro in for its first oil change July 10th, had them look into a sound I had noticed when letting out the clutch in 1st and 2nd. Shortly after found out I needed a new transmission. A problem with the transmission output shaft having to much play, second one my dealership caught. Tranny arrived today, however I am waiting on a technicain to fly in from Vancouver later today to take a look at the car. vin# 14368

10-22-2009, 01:14 PM	#47
VicoryCamaro Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 2SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bucks county Posts: 3	Just Broke my axle trying to do a burnout...dealer will not cover it because they said the vehicle was abused...what should i do from here?

10-25-2009, 11:09 PM	#53
JP2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS2 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lake Jackson TX Posts: 45	I just broke mine. Input or output shaft.

10-25-2009, 11:57 PM	#55
RoyalKev Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 973	I guess i broke mine to 2G1FT1EW1A9114402 is my vin and its a m6