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06-23-2013, 10:58 PM | #16 |
The supercharger is rated at 554hp to the crank, 20% loss to the wheels... bone stock it was at 318hp, which is 20.5% loss from the crank 400hp)
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06-23-2013, 11:00 PM | #17 | |
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Then with the blower you gained roughly 70 rwhp. That's almost impossible. Even at 6 psi you should gain between 100 -120 rwhp. Typically it's 20 rwhp for every lb of boost. Before you change anything I'd investigate this. Talk to your guy. Talk to some other tuners because you are way off. In this case the type of dyno is irrelevant. You car was done on the sane dyno and produced average bolt on numbers. I was thinking maybe they used a mustang dyno which is usually 10-20% lower than most other dyno's. which would explain the low rwhp blower numbers. |
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06-23-2013, 11:02 PM | #18 |
318rwhp bone stock, I entered with 369rwhp with LTH, cai, flowmasters, no cats no tune... came out with 443 sc'd, tuned and cai kinda became obsolete since they hacked it up... AEM custom built a new one for us shortly after, but didn't get it re tuned yet.
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06-23-2013, 11:05 PM | #19 |
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As you increase the power that drivetrain loss percentage drops. It it sucks up 82 rwhp stock it's doesnt use 88 rwhp with the blower. It's still only uses the 82 rwhp. So the drivetrain loss at 443 is 18%.
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06-23-2013, 11:06 PM | #20 |
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Get the new cai and have then retune it. Then start from that point. Gaining 70 rwhp from a blower is ridiculous.
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06-23-2013, 11:08 PM | #21 | |
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The shop i took it too was very familiar with them and said nothing but good things and how many they've installed... they had 3 Camaros in there with them when i got there, so trusted their judgment and work...
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12.012 @ 115.75mph DA: 2371 | 486rwhp/467rwtq (11/8/2015)M 11.265 @ 123.55mph DA: 2318 | 526rwhp/532rwtq (11/19/2016)M 10.722 @ 132.21mph DA: 850 | 645rwhp/581rwtq (12/3/2017)M 10.609 @ 130.19 DA: 975 | 675rwhp/629rwtq (2/16/2020)D Build: E-Force w/ 3.25" pulley (11lbs of boost), 10% OD under pulley, Fore Dual Fuel System, ID850's, AEM CAI, Borla Long Tubes, Flowmaster Super 10's, Circle D 3200 converter 258mm triple disc lockup, cam 226/242 116+4 LSA, ZL-1 Rear end, E85 & BRC Raceworks Tune (previously known as CMS) Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMitchellRCM |
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06-23-2013, 11:14 PM | #22 | |
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The blower is gd, maybe the tune isn't. But something isn't right. That number just seems low to me. |
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06-23-2013, 11:24 PM | #23 |
Yeah, i have a number to a shop in Ontario here I'm calling tomorrow that was given to me by a friend, so hopefully he will think like this also and will give me a good estimate.
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06-23-2013, 11:29 PM | #24 |
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You should try Cunningham Motorsports in Murrieta. I don't know him personally or his work but I've read nothing but great things about Ryne. He seems to know his stuff.
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06-23-2013, 11:34 PM | #25 | |
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I tried to get ahold of this shop actually, AEM referred me to them but they never seem to answer via email nor phone... this other place is called CBM motorsports... basically specialize in GM cars and LS motors... i will try Cunningham again though, more research the better, if i can get ahold of them this time around.
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12.012 @ 115.75mph DA: 2371 | 486rwhp/467rwtq (11/8/2015)M 11.265 @ 123.55mph DA: 2318 | 526rwhp/532rwtq (11/19/2016)M 10.722 @ 132.21mph DA: 850 | 645rwhp/581rwtq (12/3/2017)M 10.609 @ 130.19 DA: 975 | 675rwhp/629rwtq (2/16/2020)D Build: E-Force w/ 3.25" pulley (11lbs of boost), 10% OD under pulley, Fore Dual Fuel System, ID850's, AEM CAI, Borla Long Tubes, Flowmaster Super 10's, Circle D 3200 converter 258mm triple disc lockup, cam 226/242 116+4 LSA, ZL-1 Rear end, E85 & BRC Raceworks Tune (previously known as CMS) Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMitchellRCM |
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06-23-2013, 11:37 PM | #26 |
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you def need to datalog and have a proper dyno tune done!
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06-24-2013, 12:04 AM | #27 |
I just emailed CBM motorsports so i have a reminder to give them a call... same with Cunningham... just gotta wait for the morning to come now.
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12.012 @ 115.75mph DA: 2371 | 486rwhp/467rwtq (11/8/2015)M 11.265 @ 123.55mph DA: 2318 | 526rwhp/532rwtq (11/19/2016)M 10.722 @ 132.21mph DA: 850 | 645rwhp/581rwtq (12/3/2017)M 10.609 @ 130.19 DA: 975 | 675rwhp/629rwtq (2/16/2020)D Build: E-Force w/ 3.25" pulley (11lbs of boost), 10% OD under pulley, Fore Dual Fuel System, ID850's, AEM CAI, Borla Long Tubes, Flowmaster Super 10's, Circle D 3200 converter 258mm triple disc lockup, cam 226/242 116+4 LSA, ZL-1 Rear end, E85 & BRC Raceworks Tune (previously known as CMS) Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMitchellRCM |
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06-24-2013, 12:34 AM | #28 |
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Your numbers do seem real low I have the Edelbrock SC. I think you need to get the tune check. And also your going to need to the JRE fuel line mod for it if your want to get more power out of it. Here is the link for the fuel mod http://www.jreperformanceparts.com/j...el-system.html.
If you looking for the 3.5 pulley I have one with the belt if your look for the pulley you can P.M. me. And also you can call Haddad Motorsports (310) 412-8032 ask for Mike he can help with the tune.
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