January 2015 Camaro Sales Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger)

[MLAZ1990]

LOL!!! I laugh so hard when I look at Challenger sales!

[90503]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

I still don't get this number war ... what is so great about having a car that you can see anywhere else? I mean, if you like high selling cars, buy a Nissan Altima ... you'll own both Mustangs and Camaros...

You can't feel the joy of driving a 1LE in France and NEVER see another one around in 2 years! (saw like maybe 2 or 3 Camaros the last 2 years ...)

Yeah, I can hear you "the more you sell, the more the car will evolve and live" ... well ... I'd rather have a good Camaro that won't sell and die for next gens than having a ugly piece of s. that sells and lives (who said "mustang"?)

You make a good point, but the big-shots may see it differently....If sales don't look like they will re-bound or even go up at some point, the plug could get pulled....

I have an old International Scout....If I re-call, IH saw that Bronco would eventually do them in...Scouts last year was it's best in sales, but the writing was on the wall...It wouldn't last...Just sayin' yeah it's cool to have a car that not everybody has, but sometimes it needs to be consistently on top in order for it to continue...

[VADER SS L99]

Considering how old the 5th gen is now and the fact that the Mustang is a brand new platform I'm not surprised. Actually, I'm a little surprised that the 5th gen is out selling the Challenger considering 2014 prices and the 2015 refresh.

[TommyTheCat]

Guess this settles the 2010-2013 vs 2014-2015 fight

[roorback]

I don't get the "dated" argument for the Camaro. If being dated was a problem why is the Chally increasing (which is essentially unchanged for the entire production run?)

[lbls1]

'15 is going to be a tough year.

[TommyTheCat]

Originally Posted by lbls1

'15 is going to be a tough year.

Yep, unless the 6th gen doubles sales and cuts mustang sales in half the Camaro will lose its record as best selling American sports car

[Bizaro]

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SAID NO ONE EVER.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by roorback

I don't get the "dated" argument for the Camaro. If being dated was a problem why is the Chally increasing (which is essentially unchanged for the entire production run?)

The Challenger is selling better but not really at a consistently competitive level. I think Dodge is fine from what Ive heard with selling at their current rate. The Hellcat is the biggest thing jump starting their sales and it won't last forever. As for the Camaro refresh it worked just as they planned by keeping sales from plummeting any further than they would have if they did nothing. A 6 model year platform can't be expected to beat a first year competitor.

Edit: The Challengers refresh for 2015 also included a horsepower increase across the board so it is definitely not unchanged. Suspension improvements were also made.

[HeavyIOM]

Everyone is saying the 5th gen is dated... The s197 platform was around for 6 years when the new Camaro was released and it still held it's own for another 4 years after that.

[90503]

Did Enator find a pic of the 6th Gen?...lol...Maybe??

[doc7000]

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

Everyone is saying the 5th gen is dated... The s197 platform was around for 6 years when the new Camaro was released and it still held it's own for another 4 years after that.

You can't always look at data like that in a vacuum, also very often certain opinions get pushed on internet forums that do not really reflect the real world.

I think the more simple way to look at things is to consider the price/demand curve for the Mustang pre Camaro and post Camaro because that changed dramatically. The Camaro came out and not only did the Mustang need $$ on the hood to move at a decent rate they also put off price increases for some of the years. Not to mention that they re-invested money into the Mustang to try and keep it fresh, they really did the right things considering the market situation. They even produced a cool BOSS 302 Mustang, it forced GM to produce an even cooler 1LE Camaro (2014-2015 1LE Camaro RS in black looks scary).

With that said we have a new Mustang and soon we will have a new Camaro, I see both really pushing eachother into being much better cars. Not to insult the people on this forum however the future of these vehicles will not depend on the more traditional Mustang and Camaro buyer. What was done to the Mustang back in 2005 made sense at the time, the baby boomers were still overwhelmingly a major financial force. However we are in 2015 and they really are not the main force. Generation X is the new, these are people who started to turn 16 at the soonest mid to late 1970s. Which means a lot of them remember the cars of the 1980s as these were the cars they had around them brand new at the time. If I remember Porsche was a huge force during this time period offering a variety of vehicles.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

I still don't get this number war ... what is so great about having a car that you can see anywhere else? I mean, if you like high selling cars, buy a Nissan Altima ... you'll own both Mustangs and Camaros...

You can't feel the joy of driving a 1LE in France and NEVER see another one around in 2 years! (saw like maybe 2 or 3 Camaros the last 2 years ...)

Yeah, I can hear you "the more you sell, the more the car will evolve and live" ... well ... I'd rather have a good Camaro that won't sell and die for next gens than having a ugly piece of s. that sells and lives (who said "mustang"?)

More Camaros sold = more incentive GM has to invest in the nameplate. Your thinking is completely flawed.

You drive a Camaro. It's a mass-produced sports coupe built by one of the world's largest automakers sold under the 2nd best selling brand in America. Truth hurts, but it is nothing special in the grand scheme of things.

[sonnydurden]

Its a marathon not a sprint..