12-05-2023, 05:20 PM | #1 |
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New 2SS Owner - Mistake?
Hey all,
I’m a new owner of a black on black 2024 2SS 1LE with BCD brakes and A10 transmission. I am coming from a 2021 Toyota Supra that was tuned and modified for the track. I do 15-20 track days a year and some Gridlife time attack events. Usually fastest in my HPDE groups. My question is.. I feel like I made a mistake getting a 2SS with a sunroof. I wasn't aware of the differences between the sunroof VS non sunroof version until AFTER I got it (and I stupidly overlooked the sunroof when purchasing the car at night). Does anyone have data on how much faster a non sunroof equipped SS 1LE might be? I heard the reverse-mohawk roof adds downforce. Also, I may be overreacting and the difference may not be noticeable at all and I’m just crazy lol. |
12-05-2023, 05:26 PM | #2 |
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I'm sure it's not significant, you're just getting the penalty of a heavier car.
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12-05-2023, 05:57 PM | #3 |
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The bigger concern may be how well you fit with a helmet on.
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12-05-2023, 07:13 PM | #4 |
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Cool, I can live with the weight difference since there’s ways to reduce weight. And from my research, the auto and sunroof add around 25-50 lbs (all sources I saw had different weights). My bigger concern was aerodynamic differences of the roof line.
I’m 5’8” so no issue with a helmet, I fit fine thankfully lol. I plan on adding a big wing and possibly custom front splitter with canards and going to 18” wheels from BC forged since I got confirmation from them they’ll clear the BCD brakes. |
12-06-2023, 11:13 AM | #5 |
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Unless you drive professionally, with race cars, you're not going to notice 25-50 pounds of weight. Statistically, the time delta is negligible.
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12-06-2023, 06:20 PM | #6 |
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The weight difference between the 2 is going to be very minor. The bigger "issue" is the amount of headroom you lose with a sunroof vs a hard top.
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12-06-2023, 06:30 PM | #7 |
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a micro deviance of weight transfer to due the 25# up on top ?????
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12-06-2023, 08:08 PM | #8 |
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Why did you get rid of your tuned and track ready Supra? Was there anything you didn’t like about it?
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12-06-2023, 08:37 PM | #9 |
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Where did you read that non sunroof adds downforce? That's a new one for me
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12-07-2023, 03:02 PM | #10 | |
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I honestly just wanted a change and a car that I didn't have to modify for better cooling on track. Never owned a V8 and wanted to experience it. I'll see if I can link to the article. I believe it mentioned something about the GT4.R car having it as well because for better aerodynamics. |
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12-07-2023, 04:36 PM | #11 |
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yup my buddy made that mistake on his old cobalt ss but hes a tiny guy
more weight and he broke his sunroof a few times from going around corners not sure if the lateral g load disrupted the tracks or what but i always order my "track " cars with no sunroof on purpose and im only 6" ft tall
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12-07-2023, 06:34 PM | #12 |
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Ive had a 1ss 1le no sun roof and a 2ss 1le sunroof and tracked both cars. Theres no difference in weight or drag that you will notice. Times were the same as well. The only difference was head room.
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12-13-2023, 11:55 AM | #13 |
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I have a 2SS 1LE with a sunroof and do track days with it. I'm 5'-8" and my helmet does touch the roof in my normal seating position. Adjusting the seat a bit made it OK.
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12-17-2023, 11:47 PM | #14 | |
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How do you enjoy tracking yours? |
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