PSA: Making your SS faster then the ZL1 doesn't make it faster on a Road Course - Page 6 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Jose · 10-23-2011, 08:47 PM

Ok, here is the real story. Most of us can afford a ZL1, however, when the SS came along, and there was no release date for the ZL1, we went for the 2SS/RS, then time passed and we had invested over $12K+ on our cars, to make it over the 550rwhp range. Then the ZL1 got a date!!! Now, are you willing to loose a lot of $$$ selling your highly modified 2SS and pay again $70k for the ZL1, the answer is NO.

Raptor626 · 10-23-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose

Ok, here is the real story. Most of us can afford a ZL1, however, when the SS came along, and there was no release date for the ZL1, we went for the 2SS/RS, then time passed and we had invested over $12K+ on our cars, to make it over the 550rwhp range. Then the ZL1 got a date!!! Now, are you willing to loose a lot of $$$ selling your highly modified 2SS and pay again $70k for the ZL1, the answer is NO.

Amen.

steeleshark2 · 10-23-2011, 09:03 PM

I think my SS could give a ZL1 a run for its money!! It would probably be a drivers race but I am not that good of a driver yet.

Raptor626 · 10-23-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by steeleshark2

I think my SS could give a ZL1 a run for its money!! It would probably be a drivers race but I am not that good of a driver yet.

LOL, had it add in that "yet" huh? I saw your original post.

blkevrythng · 10-23-2011, 09:46 PM

We can all agree that we like cool cars?

YouseeSS · 10-23-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BLACK10

no, i don't want one and i get 26mpg. personally for me there is nothing that appeals to me about the ZL1. For $60K i would buy a lightly preowned Z06 and put a cam in it. now, please dont go and compare the Z06 to the ZL1.

THIS!

steeleshark2 · 10-23-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor626

LOL, had it add in that "yet" huh? I saw your original post.

Yeah, I missed that the first time!!

Rogan · 10-24-2011, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blkevrythng

We can all agree that we like cool cars?

Vaugner · 10-24-2011, 11:01 AM

SS vs ZL1

Raptor626 · 10-24-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaugner

SS vs ZL1

Relax, you have a V6. It's funny the GT and Shelby guys don't argue like this.

ravensjeff · 10-24-2011, 11:21 AM

Rogan- I agree with your original statement to a point- Tossing on a Supercharger alone will not make you faster then a ZL1 and will most likely get you a blown engine and driveshaft axles broken.

But everyone I know of that has done a decent amount of engine work on their car has had the suspension modified as well. And most will modify the suspension before Forging the internals due to the cost involved.

If you want to do it right, there is alot more involved then just modifying suspension and adding a supercharger.

Boost level, Compression, Internal engine strength, fuel delivery, tuning, suspension, entire drivetrain, weight, the builder, driver skill etc, etc.

Arachnyd · 10-24-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACK10

Whats funny is hes talking sh*t about a car he doesnt have yet!

My 2500 HP Ferrari F50 can smoke all of y'alls, so there.

All I need to do is figure out how to buy a F50, how to make it 2500 HP, and where to find the money to do it all, and your DONE!

HumanWiki · 10-24-2011, 11:28 AM

I'm good with my SS... Besides, it'll be much more rewarding spanking a ZL1 in a lowly SS than in another ZL1 or Corvette..

Just like people with LS/LT cars beating an SS --- it's much more rewarding to them than one SS owning another.

Besides, it's not always about the car --- Having a ZL1 means jack if you can't or won't actually drive it to its fullest on a track. You could just as easily lose to an automatic, convertible 1998 Mustang GT.

ssump29 · 10-24-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor626

I honestly don't think SS owners will whine about gas mileage. As far as power goes, it was never enough for me, and it's the same story for a lot of SS owners. I don't know the percentage, but a decent number of SS are mildly to heavily modded from what I've seen on C5.
And I'd love to have a ZL1

, but for now I'll spend 10grand making my SS faster.

I bust up laughing at this. The C5 SS community is very small in portion to what the real life number driving SS's are and trust me more people buying the SS and V6 for that matter AREN'T touching the car and leaving it as is. Modding is very low once you step outside the car forums which is a small portion of owners.

10-23-2011, 08:47 PM	#71
Jose Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS White S/C Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 842 View My Garage	Ok, here is the real story. Most of us can afford a ZL1, however, when the SS came along, and there was no release date for the ZL1, we went for the 2SS/RS, then time passed and we had invested over $12K+ on our cars, to make it over the 550rwhp range. Then the ZL1 got a date!!! Now, are you willing to loose a lot of $$$ selling your highly modified 2SS and pay again $70k for the ZL1, the answer is NO. __________________ "It does not matter if you win or loose, what matters is if I win" Carl Fogarty

10-23-2011, 09:03 PM	#73
steeleshark2 Drives: 2010 Transformer 1SS Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kingsland, Ga Posts: 2,553 View My Garage	I think my SS could give a ZL1 a run for its money!! It would probably be a drivers race but I am not that good of a driver yet. __________________ Build page:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...77#post3083477

10-24-2011, 11:01 AM	#79
Vaugner Never Surrender! Drives: '11 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alamogordo, NM Posts: 117	SS vs ZL1 __________________ I drive at 88mph just in-case.

10-24-2011, 11:21 AM	#81
ravensjeff 100% Chevy & Harley Man Drives: 2010 2SS: Blown LSX 376-B15 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eldersburg,MD Posts: 2,211 View My Garage	Rogan- I agree with your original statement to a point- Tossing on a Supercharger alone will not make you faster then a ZL1 and will most likely get you a blown engine and driveshaft axles broken. But everyone I know of that has done a decent amount of engine work on their car has had the suspension modified as well. And most will modify the suspension before Forging the internals due to the cost involved. If you want to do it right, there is alot more involved then just modifying suspension and adding a supercharger. Boost level, Compression, Internal engine strength, fuel delivery, tuning, suspension, entire drivetrain, weight, the builder, driver skill etc, etc. __________________ LSX 376-B15, TVS2300 SC, Harland Sharp Rockers w/ Trunion Bearings, ATI Balancer/keyed, AR LT Headers/Borla Catback Exhaust, DSS 1400 HP Axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, 3.70, Hotchkis Springs/Sway bars, Forgeline SO3P Aluminum Wheels (20x9.5 F/20x11 R)w/ Hidden Titanium Hardware, Nitto NT05 Tires (27540ZR20 F/31535ZR20 R), Billet LPE brake/gas pedals, Escort 9500ci Radar Detector Laser Jammer, Roto Fab CAI with Ice Silver box, Carbon fiber tube/MAF Housing Assy, LPE Aluminum coil covers, SS9 Sleeper Fiber Glass Hood (ACS), Carbotech 1521 ceramic brake pads, Elite catch can.

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blkevrythng Drives: 112ssrsblk Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: HOME!!! Posts: 105	We can all agree that we like cool cars?

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HumanWiki Drives: Car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Place Posts: 3,361	I'm good with my SS... Besides, it'll be much more rewarding spanking a ZL1 in a lowly SS than in another ZL1 or Corvette.. Just like people with LS/LT cars beating an SS --- it's much more rewarding to them than one SS owning another. Besides, it's not always about the car --- Having a ZL1 means jack if you can't or won't actually drive it to its fullest on a track. You could just as easily lose to an automatic, convertible 1998 Mustang GT.