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Angrybird 12 · 11-18-2013, 09:28 PM

Buy a v6 and drive use it as a daily driver then when you go back to the ZL1 you will be happy with "ONLY" 580hp...
Really it's like being in Air conditioning set at 75 degrees, after a while it just doesn't feel as cool. But step out in the 90 degree heat for a little while and then come back inside and it will feel so much better.

hognutz · 11-18-2013, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

....... when it comes to keeping my Z's warranty by NOT doing a tune.

I traded in my Maggie equipped 2010 SS back in March because I wanted something as fast as my SS but with a warranty. The ZL1 fit the remedy to a T. As many people already know, we tend to get use to the HP we have and then get the craving for more. So the more I read this forum the more I keep feeling the pressure(s) or urge (if you will) to upgrade my LSA for even more HP.

Of course we all know that tuning instantly kills the warranties on these cars. This puts me right back where I was prior to buying my Z. So how's a guy suppose to deal with Camaro5 pure pressure while staying content with "only" 580HP??? lol

honesly all waranties expire. In my case most waranties I have had on cars year limit expired before I ever used them.

on my last last Z06 (07) 2012 came and went with no motor issues. I had a couple things fixed under tsb's but nothing significant. ~$600 in parts.

So on this car I new waranty would have to go away to get the power I wanted.

I turn my own wrench and paid cash for my car though so if I have to put some money in at some point it does not impact me as much as people who are finaced and have to pay $85 an hr for labor.

ZO6 Bryan · 11-18-2013, 09:43 PM

Everybody thinks that a tune means they have no warranty. The only time that GM is gonna look at the tune is if you have a total engine failure and they need to replace the motor. How often does that happen? Once an engine is properly broken in and you take care of it it should last 100k miles easy. Say your water pump fails. The dealer will probably replace it. Electrical problems? Dealer fix. Wheel bearing fails, dealer fix. MAF sensor fail? Dealer fix. Detonate because you ran too much boost and cracked a piston because it wasn't tuned properly? YOU FIX!

yellow69z28rs · 11-18-2013, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

Everybody thinks that a tune means they have no warranty. The only time that GM is gonna look at the tune is if you have a total engine failure and they need to replace the motor. How often does that happen? Once an engine is properly broken in and you take care of it it should last 100k miles easy. Say your water pump fails. The dealer will probably replace it. Electrical problems? Dealer fix. Wheel bearing fails, dealer fix. MAF sensor fail? Dealer fix. Detonate because you ran too much boost and cracked a piston because it wasn't tuned properly? YOU FIX!

Mod it ! Enjoy it !
Pure peer pressure, don't listen to me.

white ZL1 · 11-18-2013, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

Everybody thinks that a tune means they have no warranty. The only time that GM is gonna look at the tune is if you have a total engine failure and they need to replace the motor. How often does that happen? Once an engine is properly broken in and you take care of it it should last 100k miles easy. Say your water pump fails. The dealer will probably replace it. Electrical problems? Dealer fix. Wheel bearing fails, dealer fix. MAF sensor fail? Dealer fix. Detonate because you ran too much boost and cracked a piston because it wasn't tuned properly? YOU FIX!

This.

Or don't mod it.

SamHouseIII · 11-19-2013, 12:23 AM

no matter what you do, as long as you have modded cars before, you won't be happy unless you mod it and what ZO6 Bryan said!

01pewterz28 · 11-19-2013, 04:45 AM

Ozzie check with David Maus on the warranty, when we set up the club meeting at the dealership we were informed that a tuned car will not void out the warranty (obviously unless the tune caused the issue). All that they asked was that if you modded the car and did a tune just let them know so they are not going round and round looking for an issue.

As for the HP I get the need for more HP but really where will you need that extra 30+ HP honestly unless you are taking her to the track (and I know you are not) you will never use the HP you have now in the car is it really worth spending the $$$ on that. I would go with a better exhaust system for the Z, and work on some cosmetic item.

I don’t know maybe I am getting old but this day in age HP is just a number I would never use it just look at my Z/28 I never drive it she has more HP than my 2010 yet she just sits and sits.

Do yourself a favor save your $$$ and enjoy the car.

mmarx82 · 11-19-2013, 06:57 AM

One of the things I've considered is getting a new ECM to run a tune on, my one original ECM would remain stock then I can install my new tuned ECM and should I ever have that misfortune happen then I could reinstall the stock ECM.

It should be obvious but all that would depend on what mods you did, if you replaced a cam then this option wouldn't work for you. I'm now at 17K miles though and had my car for a year and a half so warranty is half gone as it is. So this option is no longer viable to me.

ECM Part numbers is the same between 2012-13 manual/auto and coupe/verts:
ACDELCO Part # 12633264
$260 RockAuto
$216 Amazon
$140 Ebay

jbotta · 11-19-2013, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

....... when it comes to keeping my Z's warranty by NOT doing a tune.

I traded in my Maggie equipped 2010 SS back in March because I wanted something as fast as my SS but with a warranty. The ZL1 fit the remedy to a T. As many people already know, we tend to get use to the HP we have and then get the craving for more. So the more I read this forum the more I keep feeling the pressure(s) or urge (if you will) to upgrade my LSA for even more HP.

Of course we all know that tuning instantly kills the warranties on these cars. This puts me right back where I was prior to buying my Z. So how's a guy suppose to deal with Camaro5 pure pressure while staying content with "only" 580HP??? lol

Bumblebee I feel the same way,,,,, I do track my zl1 and don't want to risk the warranty, But I want more HP

LuckyZL-1 · 11-19-2013, 11:30 AM

Keep it stock if its your ride to work and cant go without it has always been my rule of thumb. I don't need mine on a daily basis so I modded the heck out of it. Its my weekend warrior or sunny day car. But mainly its a bigass can of whipass I can pull out my garage and unleash on the unsuspecting general public!

DavidW · 11-19-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmarx82

One of the things I've considered is getting a new ECM to run a tune on, my one original ECM would remain stock then I can install my new tuned ECM and should I ever have that misfortune happen then I could reinstall the stock ECM.

It should be obvious but all that would depend on what mods you did, if you replaced a cam then this option wouldn't work for you. I'm now at 17K miles though and had my car for a year and a half so warranty is half gone as it is. So this option is no longer viable to me.

ECM Part numbers is the same between 2012-13 manual/auto and coupe/verts:
ACDELCO Part # 12633264
$260 RockAuto
$216 Amazon
$140 Ebay

If you have an automatic then the TCM is in the transmission and cannot be removed from what I know, so even if you left the TCM untuned I would be worried about it communicating with the ecm and seeing the ecm was changed and "telling" on you some how

Angrybird 12 · 11-19-2013, 12:05 PM

Install a pressure relieve valve if it gets too much for ya..

Oddvious · 11-19-2013, 12:06 PM

I've had my 13 a month and already ordered the 150Hp JRE Pack I say the heck with it I break it gives me a reason to build the motor Just can't tell the old lady Haaa.

Like LuckyZL said I'm only gonna whip the beast out for some A** Whoopin' so for me it's worth the risk. I asked myself this am I keeping a warrantee for the next owner or myself because I want to enjoy it? The way I look at it is if it breaks it will most likely be with a lot more miles after I'm done beating on it Haaa. I haven't seen a lot of broken threads and I trust JRE's tune capabilities so for now I'm gonna enjoy it to it's full capability with 600HP+ while it's young because by the time warrantee runs out I'm sure the next best thing will have convinced me to trade up.

noah677 · 11-19-2013, 01:48 PM

On this forum I have read about handheld tuners and what you can and cannot do with them. I have been impressed with some of the products that I have looked into. Quite a number of them state quite plainly that you can reverse the tune AND THE DEALER CANNOT TELL. So my question is: is this or does this statement have any TRUTH to it?? Obviously if true then with bolt on I could get kind of hp I want/need. I really hope a few people are able to answer this.
By the way to directly comment on this topic I did put on the CAI RotoFab and was so pleasantly surprised at the increase in torque and horsepower that I experience. It is really one bolt on worth the money

11-18-2013, 09:28 PM	#15
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	Buy a v6 and drive use it as a daily driver then when you go back to the ZL1 you will be happy with "ONLY" 580hp... Really it's like being in Air conditioning set at 75 degrees, after a while it just doesn't feel as cool. But step out in the 90 degree heat for a little while and then come back inside and it will feel so much better. __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

11-18-2013, 09:43 PM	#17
ZO6 Bryan Drives: 02 Z06, 95 Trans Am, 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southeast Posts: 1,838 View My Garage	Everybody thinks that a tune means they have no warranty. The only time that GM is gonna look at the tune is if you have a total engine failure and they need to replace the motor. How often does that happen? Once an engine is properly broken in and you take care of it it should last 100k miles easy. Say your water pump fails. The dealer will probably replace it. Electrical problems? Dealer fix. Wheel bearing fails, dealer fix. MAF sensor fail? Dealer fix. Detonate because you ran too much boost and cracked a piston because it wasn't tuned properly? YOU FIX! __________________ Bryan 2018 ZL1 M6

11-19-2013, 12:23 AM	#20
SamHouseIII I Carry! Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Fletcher, Ok Posts: 2,722	no matter what you do, as long as you have modded cars before, you won't be happy unless you mod it and what ZO6 Bryan said! __________________ I am a Modaholic!! Please Help!! Do Not feed my addicition....See build... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261540 From Oklahoma, Join us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/okcamaros/

11-19-2013, 04:45 AM	#21
01pewterz28 #TeamBeckyD Drives: 2017 HBM 2SS Convertible A8 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Apopka, FL Posts: 10,496 View My Garage	Ozzie check with David Maus on the warranty, when we set up the club meeting at the dealership we were informed that a tuned car will not void out the warranty (obviously unless the tune caused the issue). All that they asked was that if you modded the car and did a tune just let them know so they are not going round and round looking for an issue. As for the HP I get the need for more HP but really where will you need that extra 30+ HP honestly unless you are taking her to the track (and I know you are not) you will never use the HP you have now in the car is it really worth spending the $$$ on that. I would go with a better exhaust system for the Z, and work on some cosmetic item. I don’t know maybe I am getting old but this day in age HP is just a number I would never use it just look at my Z/28 I never drive it she has more HP than my 2010 yet she just sits and sits. Do yourself a favor save your $$$ and enjoy the car. __________________ #TeamBeckyD FIFTY HBM 2SS VERT

11-19-2013, 06:57 AM	#22
mmarx82 Drives: '12 ZL1 #1609 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,762	One of the things I've considered is getting a new ECM to run a tune on, my one original ECM would remain stock then I can install my new tuned ECM and should I ever have that misfortune happen then I could reinstall the stock ECM. It should be obvious but all that would depend on what mods you did, if you replaced a cam then this option wouldn't work for you. I'm now at 17K miles though and had my car for a year and a half so warranty is half gone as it is. So this option is no longer viable to me. ECM Part numbers is the same between 2012-13 manual/auto and coupe/verts: ACDELCO Part # 12633264 $260 RockAuto $216 Amazon $140 Ebay __________________ Life is too short to drive cars that suck. My build Thread

11-19-2013, 11:30 AM	#24
LuckyZL-1 Ragtop Rocket!!! Drives: Black on Black Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 809	Keep it stock if its your ride to work and cant go without it has always been my rule of thumb. I don't need mine on a daily basis so I modded the heck out of it. Its my weekend warrior or sunny day car. But mainly its a bigass can of whipass I can pull out my garage and unleash on the unsuspecting general public! __________________ ADM built 2013 Triple Black ZL-1 Convertible M6 ADM custom cam, LPE stage 2 heads with dual valve springs, LS-3 ported throttle body, LPE 2 piece pulley, LPE overdrive balancer, 10% overdrive pulley, ported supercharger inlet, ADM race intake system, stainless works 1-7/8 headers, Injector Dynamics injectors, ADM heat exchanger, ADM dual fuel pump system, ADM exhaust switch, ADM 3 tunes tuning package. 744rwhp 727rwtq

11-19-2013, 12:05 PM	#26
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	Install a pressure relieve valve if it gets too much for ya.. Attached Images __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

11-19-2013, 12:06 PM	#27
Oddvious Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 171	I've had my 13 a month and already ordered the 150Hp JRE Pack I say the heck with it I break it gives me a reason to build the motor Just can't tell the old lady Haaa. Like LuckyZL said I'm only gonna whip the beast out for some A** Whoopin' so for me it's worth the risk. I asked myself this am I keeping a warrantee for the next owner or myself because I want to enjoy it? The way I look at it is if it breaks it will most likely be with a lot more miles after I'm done beating on it Haaa. I haven't seen a lot of broken threads and I trust JRE's tune capabilities so for now I'm gonna enjoy it to it's full capability with 600HP+ while it's young because by the time warrantee runs out I'm sure the next best thing will have convinced me to trade up.

11-19-2013, 01:48 PM	#28
noah677 Account Suspended Drives: White Zl1 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Redwood city Posts: 65	On this forum I have read about handheld tuners and what you can and cannot do with them. I have been impressed with some of the products that I have looked into. Quite a number of them state quite plainly that you can reverse the tune AND THE DEALER CANNOT TELL. So my question is: is this or does this statement have any TRUTH to it?? Obviously if true then with bolt on I could get kind of hp I want/need. I really hope a few people are able to answer this. By the way to directly comment on this topic I did put on the CAI RotoFab and was so pleasantly surprised at the increase in torque and horsepower that I experience. It is really one bolt on worth the money