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CamaroAmy · 04-06-2015, 05:22 PM

Hi guys,

I recently bought a 2013 zl1 vert. I took it to get the first oil change at the dealership. I asked for synthetic and they gave me semi-synthetic. Is this ok? I asked the service guy if that is ok since I was under the impression that it took synthetic. He said the car is made to take the semi-synthetic.
Thanks!

KaBoom1701 · 04-06-2015, 05:26 PM

5-30 Mobile full synthetic

CamaroAmy · 04-06-2015, 05:29 PM

Ok it was 5-30 mobile semi-synthetic

maguilar496 · 04-06-2015, 05:41 PM

then you should have gave them a semi-payment when they were done not full payment............lol

all kidding aside I would use full synthetic,

CamaroAmy · 04-06-2015, 05:47 PM

Haha it was half the price. I said "I asked for full synthetic" ugh gonna take it back!

unstable vic · 04-06-2015, 06:02 PM

Full synthetic

CAM....ZL1 · 04-06-2015, 06:10 PM

This car does not actually call for full syn. It is a 50/50 blend. I myself after the first two oil changes switched to full syn.

HDRDTD · 04-06-2015, 06:29 PM

IIRC my 2011 SS had Mobil 1 embossed right on the oil filler cap.
My 2013 ZL1 and my 2015 Malibu just require Dexros which is semi synthetic .

I had quite the discussion with the service dept manager when I took the Malibu in for it's first oil change. I initially was going to go with Mobil 1. We argued back and forth, and he finally said he'd gladly take my money, but GM only asks for Dexros.
I decided to settle on Dexros for the Malibu.

For the ZL1, I always ask for Mobil 1 even though it doesn't need it, Deros would be fine.

z28lt1 · 04-06-2015, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDRDTD

IIRC my 2011 SS had Mobil 1 embossed right on the oil filler cap.
My 2013 ZL1 and my 2015 Malibu just require Dexros which is semi synthetic .

I had quite the discussion with the service dept manager when I took the Malibu in for it's first oil change. I initially was going to go with Mobil 1. We argued back and forth, and he finally said he'd gladly take my money, but GM only asks for Dexros.
I decided to settle on Dexros for the Malibu.

For the ZL1, I always ask for Mobil 1 even though it doesn't need it, Deros would be fine.

Just for clarity's sake, as this discussion has been on this and just about every high performance GM board, Dexos is an oil specification developed by GM. A lot of oils meet Dexos specification, including 5w-30 Mobil 1.

GM calls for any Dexos certified oil (some are synthetic bends and many are full synthetics). The dealer will likely put the ACDelco Blend in as the house oil if they are not paid to use Mobil 1. People sometimes call that oil Dexos, because the Dexos logo is more prominent than on other oils.

Interestingly enough, GM calls for Mobil 1 for track duty on the Corvettes and Z/28, but not for the Zl1. So, in theory, you should have full warranty coverage with any Dexos certified oil. The full list is at:
http://www.centerforqa.com/gm/dexos2-brands

HDRDTD · 04-06-2015, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z28lt1

Just for clarity's sake, as this discussion has been on this and just about every high performance GM board, Dexos is an oil specification developed by GM. A lot of oils meet Dexos specification, including 5w-30 Mobil 1.

GM calls for any Dexos certified oil (some are synthetic bends and many are full synthetics). The dealer will likely put the ACDelco Blend in as the house oil if they are not paid to use Mobil 1. People sometimes call that oil Dexos, because the Dexos logo is more prominent than on other oils.

Interestingly enough, GM calls for Mobil 1 for track duty on the Corvettes and Z/28, but not for the Zl1. So, in theory, you should have full warranty coverage with any Dexos certified oil. The full list is at:
http://www.centerforqa.com/gm/dexos2-brands

Exactly. Dexos is NOT a specific oil, it's an oil that meets GM's Dexos specs. This is a big part of what we were arguing about.

The bottom line is that GM only spec's a 'Dexos' type of oil, which is a semi-synthetic oil for both my Malibu and ZL1.

The oil caps on both have Dexos on them, not the Mobil 1 label that my 2011 SS had.

Mobil 1 is fine, just not required.

MYBADSS · 07-06-2015, 03:53 PM

Just had the dealer do my first FREE oil change at 1500 miles. They used Mobil 1 ,GM approves it for the free first 2 year changes. You can do twice a year. Even though my filler cap says Dexos

zogster · 07-06-2015, 05:49 PM

I just had the dealer do my first free oil change, they put in Mobil 1 at my request. I told them I could pay the price difference from Dexos but they didn't charge me.

djnice · 07-08-2015, 09:59 AM

Some say it's better to use semi-synth for the first 10k or so.

Emvici · 07-08-2015, 10:10 AM

Gm did a service update for the oil requirements on the Zl1, and they change it from requiring full synthetic to a semi synthetic to save money, because most dealers agreed to a 2 yr free oil change. When I went in for my last oil change I was shocked to see them try to pass of semi syn on me. Then they should me a piece of paper that listed the requirements for the Zl1, and if you look closely you could see it was an update (meaning they modified it from the original requirements. (they ended up giving me full synthetic).

04-06-2015, 05:22 PM	#1
CamaroAmy Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Vert Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 161 View My Garage	Oil change for ZL1 Hi guys, I recently bought a 2013 zl1 vert. I took it to get the first oil change at the dealership. I asked for synthetic and they gave me semi-synthetic. Is this ok? I asked the service guy if that is ok since I was under the impression that it took synthetic. He said the car is made to take the semi-synthetic. Thanks!

04-06-2015, 05:26 PM	#2
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	5-30 Mobile full synthetic __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

07-08-2015, 09:59 AM	#13
djnice Drives: 13 ZL1 SIM, 99 Z28 Black Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 708	Some say it's better to use semi-synth for the first 10k or so. __________________ 2018 C7 Z06 - WGG, M7. / 2013 ZL1 - SIM, 6 spd, RotoFab CAI, Can. / 1999 Z28 - Black, 6 spd, K&N, Subframe. / More Fun Stuff - www.inlandspeed.com

04-06-2015, 05:29 PM	#3
CamaroAmy Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Vert Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 161 View My Garage	Ok it was 5-30 mobile semi-synthetic

04-06-2015, 05:41 PM	#4
maguilar496 Drives: 96 camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Shafter, CA Posts: 137	then you should have gave them a semi-payment when they were done not full payment............lol all kidding aside I would use full synthetic,

04-06-2015, 05:47 PM	#5
CamaroAmy Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Vert Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 161 View My Garage	Haha it was half the price. I said "I asked for full synthetic" ugh gonna take it back!

04-06-2015, 06:02 PM	#6
unstable vic Account Suspended Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 342	Full synthetic

04-06-2015, 06:10 PM	#7
CAM....ZL1 Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: BENTON, IL. Posts: 1,068 View My Garage	This car does not actually call for full syn. It is a 50/50 blend. I myself after the first two oil changes switched to full syn.

04-06-2015, 06:29 PM	#8
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	IIRC my 2011 SS had Mobil 1 embossed right on the oil filler cap. My 2013 ZL1 and my 2015 Malibu just require Dexros which is semi synthetic . I had quite the discussion with the service dept manager when I took the Malibu in for it's first oil change. I initially was going to go with Mobil 1. We argued back and forth, and he finally said he'd gladly take my money, but GM only asks for Dexros. I decided to settle on Dexros for the Malibu. For the ZL1, I always ask for Mobil 1 even though it doesn't need it, Deros would be fine.

07-06-2015, 03:53 PM	#11
MYBADSS Drives: 2015 ZL1 Convertible Automatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Maricopa, AZ Posts: 100 View My Garage	Just had the dealer do my first FREE oil change at 1500 miles. They used Mobil 1 ,GM approves it for the free first 2 year changes. You can do twice a year. Even though my filler cap says Dexos

07-06-2015, 05:49 PM	#12
zogster Drives: 2014 RRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: IL Posts: 659	I just had the dealer do my first free oil change, they put in Mobil 1 at my request. I told them I could pay the price difference from Dexos but they didn't charge me.

07-08-2015, 10:10 AM	#14
Emvici Drives: 2014 ZL1 White Convertible Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: St Pete Fl Posts: 682	Gm did a service update for the oil requirements on the Zl1, and they change it from requiring full synthetic to a semi synthetic to save money, because most dealers agreed to a 2 yr free oil change. When I went in for my last oil change I was shocked to see them try to pass of semi syn on me. Then they should me a piece of paper that listed the requirements for the Zl1, and if you look closely you could see it was an update (meaning they modified it from the original requirements. (they ended up giving me full synthetic).