07-14-2008, 04:41 PM | #1 | |
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I Think I'm Gonna Join the NAVY
I think I'm gonna join the navy fresh out of high school before I go to college, here are a number of reasons why I'm considering it:
1. I need to get away from my family and fast, need some me time, to think about my future 2. I don't want to be stuck paying college loans in tel I'm 55, personally I think your a fool for not taking advantage of the government paying your thru college 3. And full heath coverage that's a + 4. Other than a select few I don't really have any friends, and haven't had a girlfriend since 8th grade, and with the exception of my HEMI...lol I have and lived so far a very boring and dull life, so I'm a Thrill Seeker 5. I'm very good with computers hardware and software......very good, I could hack this site if I wanted to...........relax I like this place a lot, anyway If I like it and when I get my college degree and if it pays good I'm might go career 6. 8 weeks of PT would do my fat ass some good lol, though I'm am worried what the drill instructors would do to me cause I cant do a single push up...... so I got a question for the veterans that's on this site how is it, and whats it like, and for those that's not in the navy tell your side
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07-14-2008, 05:03 PM | #2 |
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07-14-2008, 05:54 PM | #3 |
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If you can't doa single push up, you won't make it. Go start practicing.
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07-14-2008, 06:15 PM | #4 |
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I don't have much experience with the enlisted side of things (the side you'll be entering) but I can try and give you some generic advice that's helped me weather the officer side of things thus far:
A) Train NOW. Boot camp is NOT the time to get into shape. You need to have a solid base in order to save yourself a lot of grief from your cadre/detailers/whatever they're calling them today. B) Don't just think "I want to join the Navy"... think about what you want to do in the Navy. Do you want to be on ships, on subs, with aircraft or what? If you're as technically savvy as you say you are then I'd suggest looking into submarines. They get paid more and deal with a lot of technology in a hands-on scenario. C) Look at the other services as well. Air Force might appeal to you more than the Navy (although I doubt Army or the Marines will if you're not really into the physical side of things). D) Be prepared for a rough couple of years at the least. Yes, the benefits are great and sometimes the jobs are awesome (how many of your high school friends will be on a $500 million ship in the middle of an ocean?), but a lot of the time will not be fun. Time on the ship can be mindnumbingly boring and, depending on your division, the majority of your time might very well be spent painting and repainting the same patch of deck. As a seaman right out bootcamp you'll get a lot of the jobs no one else wants and it'll be that way until you advance beyond the bottom of the totem pole. E) In short, be completely sure its what you want and then throw yourself into it completely. Trust the Navy (as scary as that is at times) and do what it asks of you and in the end you'll be a better person. Anywho, hope this helps and perhaps there are some former enlisted out there who can give you a better feel for what the first year or two would be like.
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07-14-2008, 09:54 PM | #6 | |
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I had a friend that joined the marines because he thought his uniform could be used to pick up girls, but he couldn't do 3 pushups. He had bad reasons for joining in the first place and a lack of desire to put forth the effort they required. And like Spike said, he spent extra time in training until he graduated and was kicked out shortly afterward. He was in long enough to get a tattoo and a couple beers and that was about it. That said, if you do want to get into computers, the military is not a bad choice. I'm a developer myself and many of the people I work with were in the service. My IT manager was a Marine, our dba was in the Army, our network guy was in the Air Force. Another developer was in the Air Force for 10 years, worked on F15s in Korea. Another one of our helpdesk technicians was in the Navy. The company I worked for prior to my current job was federal government and if you have prior military service it not only gets you hiring preference, it also counts toward your retirement points / vacation time. If I had to do it again, I might have joined the Air Force. When I was about 19 I went down to the meps station to do my physical, but my father had a stroke that very same morning and so I never went in. Because my asvab was so high, I was set to ride in the back of an awacs plane. That was the plan anyway. I really don't regret not joining though. I was always into something so I never got bored and my career turned out pretty well. |
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07-14-2008, 10:27 PM | #7 |
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Ive been a Missile Technician working hands on with neclear weapons/systems. less than 1% of the global population can say that. I can also say that I hated it, just as much as I loved doing my job. I spent 5 years aboard a submarine and the only thing I've seen is nothing literally. So if you want to see the world and get the "sailor experience" dont go to a "Boomer" (ballistic submarine) and dont become a missile technician, because the trade off for being in that 1% is being stuck in Georgia, and Washington. the good thing about being on a boomer is the rotation (time out to sea, and in port). Every one I know thats been booted to the surface community loves it. And be prepaired to spend
A LOT OF TIME CLEANING AND SITTING AROUND WITH YOUR THUMB UP YOUR A$$ or pretending to clean. Everyone's gonna say dont waste your benefits but using them wont be as easy as just using them. Some commands require that you qualify every thing before they let you use tuition assistance, and there are restrictions on how many credits you can get per fiscal year. Being on subs you tend to get paid more. If you want to know anything else about being a MT just pm me. If your in any Mechanical/Electrical rate get in to the Navy's apprentanceship program! No one will tell you about it (I just learned abourt it on my way out the door) and by the time you get out you can already me at a journeyman level making an automatic 35+ dollars an hour as an electrician/mechanic. Dont forget this because you may never hear of this again. If you do forget your smart transcripts (you'll know what they are) will give you credit. As a MT Washington's giving me 4000 hours based on my rate's training. Unfortunately people in my situation are shafted, my injuries disqualify me for any type of technical job. but If I had been in admin while in the navy, I'd be able to hop right into a government desk job making 50K+. There will be people that you will find hard to tolerate...its usually the people from rich families that join "just cause" and think that they're better than everyone. Or the guy that was picked on in HS and has some rank and wants to take it out on junior guys. Learn how to deal with people, befriend everyone trust no one. Befriend everone because networking does wonders, trust no one because you will get stabbed in the back by people who want to advance in rank, or a snot nose junior officer that will throw you under the bus. and never be the highest guy on the totem pole that knows about any situation. (especially the bad situations) |
07-15-2008, 12:02 AM | #8 | |
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07-15-2008, 12:08 AM | #9 |
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Plain and simple, here is the best advice I can give. Really think about this decision. Realize that the decision is one that will affect the next 4 to 6 years depending on the enlistment you take. I have watched a lot of people come into the Air Force who after being in for 2 years decide that it isn't for them, but still had to ride out the last 4 of their enlistment and basically in the remainder of the time make it harder on everyone else.
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07-15-2008, 12:10 AM | #10 |
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It is definitely not a choice to be made too quickly.
You will have to be 'within standards' to join, a certain weight for your height, and must be able to do 60 pushups and situps run 1.5 miles....soon. And those standards do not go away, they seem to get harder and harder (lighter and lighter) As a computer 'genius' the rating I.T. would be for you, for official training and experience.... definitely good for a 4 or 6 year career, to set you up for a follow on career. the rating used to be a slow way to the top, if you stayed in. Now, computers are VERY prevalent, so it could be improving. Benefits: for a short career (4-6 yr) G.I. Bill just got a BIG boost $$$$ for college, books, rent.... Again training, certifications, work experience all good for resumes... medical, covers just about anything, some elective surgeries, ATV accidents... ~quality~care sometimes, dental etc... As with most jobs there will be some jack@$$3$ that you end up working for/with. But you can NOT quit, and you can NOT kick their @$$. Of course there will be great people as well, and then they will move, or you will and you will miss 'em and then you meet new ones... a lot. How do you feel about boats... BIG ones that do not come home every day, or week , or month.......6 months away from home every 2 years (approximately). But you may get to see parts of the world that most Americans will only see on a screen, some really cool places out there... If you do not try or get to become an IT, if you chose an Aviation rating, such as AT (Aviation Electronics) or AE (Electrician) etc... you MIGHT go to a squadron that rarely, or never goes to a ship... maybe. Of course even IT people get to leave the ship sometime..... For a long term career: all the above^^^ and a 20 year retirement plan, that would be EXTREMELY difficult to match on your own.... And lifetime ~medical~care. Oh, after a few years, you could apply to a program that literally pays you to go to college, then you become an Officer ($$$$ more) and you stay 4-6 years + after college. Either way: a few years, or 20... it is worth looking into. Of course the Hair force can offer a lot as well... less boats, more time overseas in places like Germany...etc.
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07-15-2008, 11:41 AM | #11 | |
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yes the Air force has a lot to offer as well. Depending on career field chosen you would deploy for 4-6 months at a time. if you fix planes depending on the af you could deploy a couple times a year or once every 18 months. just depends on air frame. same GI bill and better medical coverage then navy. only say that because I was stationed at a naval air station and wow was not impressed with the hospital there. but pretty much the same benefits. as everyone else has been saying. find out what the physical requirements for passing the pt test are and start working out now to meet those by the time you leave for basic. If you don't then you could be stuck in basic longer then the minimum required time. (ie af 6.5 weeks turns into an 8.5 week course). just don't go in blindly as most people do. don't believe the recruiter completely. ask members of the service you are going in to what it's like. try to find people that are in the career field you want and talk to them. all I have to really say. good luck in all that you do. |
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07-15-2008, 02:24 PM | #13 |
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You are going to have to do what you feel is right for you, nobody can make that choice for you. I was in the Navy for almost 10 years and would still be in if it wasn't for my weight. If you stuggle with your weight you are going to have to change that now. Get started on a regular exercise program and regulate your diet, I didn't and I am still hurting for it.
Even though I wasn't allowed to stay in, the Navy was the best thing I ever did for my career. Make sure you get a job that can relate to civilian life, it will make get out of the Navy easier. Good luck and follow what your heart and mind tells you what to do. If you decide to join the service, thank you for serving and protecting our freedom.
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07-15-2008, 02:37 PM | #14 | |
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I agree Ive been in for over six and would still be in if I didn't damage my spine and had that stroke. Ive always gotten rope and choked because Im 5'11" and weight 277, its a solid 277 though. If you have problems with your weight now is the time to change your eating habits and diet. I loved doing my job as a MT so make sure that you get into a rate that you'll enjoy doing. the last thing you want is to realize you hate the military and have 2+ years left on your contract. |
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