First Vortech 2010 Camaro SS arrives for R&D - Page 3 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

kdoske · 05-28-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vash

This particular 6 speed auto can be performance modded btw.

Like the PATC Raptors etc. Just a side note.

Probably more mod parts for the auto than either of the manual tranny's.

That's great news! These guys are right that centrifuge looks pretty big. What boost u planing on having?

cadguy73 · 05-28-2009, 06:32 PM

Be careful with this supercharger on a GM motor. Vortech makes great products theres no question about that. The stock intake is designed not to be force feed and when it is cylinder 7 like to run real lean and POW! Allot of install shops will flow test all the injectors and install the richest one where it is needed the most. Please don't take this info as negative. Vortech is a great Company I just have had better luck with Superchargers that replace the factory intake with top mount unit that feeds each cylinder with the same amount of boost. I hope they will be installing a Aftercooler on the nice car. The is why GM uses Eaton supercharger's I'm sure... like the ZR 1 and CTS-V etc...

Brian@Vortech · 05-28-2009, 06:55 PM

Rest assured, your engines will be safe. We've been at this for a while now, so we know a thing or two about supercharging vehicles safely. The system will definitely be charge cooled given the stock compression ratio.

The other thing you have to keep in mind is the compressor efficiency ladder, and how different types of units stack up against one another. The efficiency ladder goes Centrifugal > Twin Screw > Roots. The twin-screw compressors are indeed extremely good, but could never match the peak efficiency of a centrifugal Vortech compressor. Vehicle manufacturers use roots-type units on OEM applications purely for price point...they are by far the cheapest of the compressors to make, but are also by far the least efficient operating. Roots are also the only unit of the three that is not a true compressor - it forces additional air into the engine, but does not compress it while doing so like the Centrifugal or Twin Screw does. The result is a sizable increase in heat, and with more heat comes less efficiency.

By the way, did anyone happen to notice that Vortech just released its first VTS Twin-Screw compressor for the LS-based Chevy trucks recently? Does this mean we will eventually offer both centrifugal and VTS for the Camaro............?

cadguy73 · 05-28-2009, 07:02 PM

That's great. Did you guy's work a deal with Art Whipple's swiss blower?

cadguy73 · 05-28-2009, 07:04 PM

Sense Vortech and Paxton are the same company will Paxton offer the kit as well?

GMtothecore · 05-28-2009, 07:17 PM

awesome....

*KILLER74Z28* · 05-29-2009, 02:58 PM

I think I’m starting to go into “bolt-on Overload” and I’m loving it…

Subscribed!

*radz28* · 05-29-2009, 03:42 PM

I noticed that Lysholm (?sp?) supercharger you're referrencing. Something like 3.3 or 3.8 liters, or something...

DFWGTO · 05-30-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadguy73

Be careful with this supercharger on a GM motor. Vortech makes great products theres no question about that. The stock intake is designed not to be force feed and when it is cylinder 7 like to run real lean and POW! Allot of install shops will flow test all the injectors and install the richest one where it is needed the most. Please don't take this info as negative. Vortech is a great Company I just have had better luck with Superchargers that replace the factory intake with top mount unit that feeds each cylinder with the same amount of boost. I hope they will be installing a Aftercooler on the nice car. The is why GM uses Eaton supercharger's I'm sure... like the ZR 1 and CTS-V etc...

Bigger Injectors and a bigger pump are a must.... More fuel or kaboom

The Number 7 piston is at the far end of the fuel rail, More fuel should keep this from happening. I use aftermarket rails and pressure sense the end farthest from the inlet. If it drops below 55 lbs your injectors are drinking it all up.

Whoot! I luvs me some forced Induction!

DFWGTO

Gary B · 06-28-2009, 09:04 PM

Whats the latest from Vortech? Anyone hear?

Tonka · 06-28-2009, 09:34 PM

im gonna be giving them a call tomorrow as im located near them im looking to get my LS3 supercharged

kdoske · 06-28-2009, 09:36 PM

I forgot all about this.

csg93 · 06-28-2009, 09:47 PM

idk why but i just like superchargers from people like lingenfelter and kenne bell more than turbos.

slowerthanu · 06-29-2009, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csg93

idk why but i just like superchargers from people like lingenfelter and kenne bell more than turbos.

Huh? There are no turbos being discussed in this thread.

05-28-2009, 06:32 PM	#30
cadguy73 Drives: 09' Cadillac CTS-V Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surprise,AZ Posts: 42	Be careful with this supercharger on a GM motor. Vortech makes great products theres no question about that. The stock intake is designed not to be force feed and when it is cylinder 7 like to run real lean and POW! Allot of install shops will flow test all the injectors and install the richest one where it is needed the most. Please don't take this info as negative. Vortech is a great Company I just have had better luck with Superchargers that replace the factory intake with top mount unit that feeds each cylinder with the same amount of boost. I hope they will be installing a Aftercooler on the nice car. The is why GM uses Eaton supercharger's I'm sure... like the ZR 1 and CTS-V etc... Last edited by cadguy73; 05-28-2009 at 06:49 PM.

05-28-2009, 07:17 PM	#34
GMtothecore "That Guy" Drives: Camaro SS...........what else? Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: OOOOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plains. Posts: 2,360	awesome.... __________________

05-29-2009, 02:58 PM	#35
KILLER74Z28 MOD SQUAD Drives: 2G1FT1EW9A9100666 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 5,782 View My Garage	I think I’m starting to go into “bolt-on Overload” and I’m loving it… Subscribed! __________________ Who cares about the Blue Oval crowd and their little Ponys? We're getting our Camaro back-and it'll be Supercharged!-MDAII Team LS3

05-29-2009, 03:42 PM	#36
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	I noticed that Lysholm (?sp?) supercharger you're referrencing. Something like 3.3 or 3.8 liters, or something... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

06-28-2009, 09:04 PM	#38
Gary B Drives: Subaru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ct. Posts: 573	Whats the latest from Vortech? Anyone hear? __________________ Time for a new ride soon....6th Gen or 5th Gen Z28? Hmmm....

05-28-2009, 06:55 PM	#31
Brian@Vortech Drives: Vortech 'Charged 06 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 155 View My Garage	Rest assured, your engines will be safe. We've been at this for a while now, so we know a thing or two about supercharging vehicles safely. The system will definitely be charge cooled given the stock compression ratio. The other thing you have to keep in mind is the compressor efficiency ladder, and how different types of units stack up against one another. The efficiency ladder goes Centrifugal > Twin Screw > Roots. The twin-screw compressors are indeed extremely good, but could never match the peak efficiency of a centrifugal Vortech compressor. Vehicle manufacturers use roots-type units on OEM applications purely for price point...they are by far the cheapest of the compressors to make, but are also by far the least efficient operating. Roots are also the only unit of the three that is not a true compressor - it forces additional air into the engine, but does not compress it while doing so like the Centrifugal or Twin Screw does. The result is a sizable increase in heat, and with more heat comes less efficiency. By the way, did anyone happen to notice that Vortech just released its first VTS Twin-Screw compressor for the LS-based Chevy trucks recently? Does this mean we will eventually offer both centrifugal and VTS for the Camaro............?

05-28-2009, 07:02 PM	#32
cadguy73 Drives: 09' Cadillac CTS-V Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surprise,AZ Posts: 42	That's great. Did you guy's work a deal with Art Whipple's swiss blower?

05-28-2009, 07:04 PM	#33
cadguy73 Drives: 09' Cadillac CTS-V Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surprise,AZ Posts: 42	Sense Vortech and Paxton are the same company will Paxton offer the kit as well?

06-28-2009, 09:34 PM	#39
Tonka Drives: 2010 Cyber Gray 2SS Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 140 View My Garage	im gonna be giving them a call tomorrow as im located near them im looking to get my LS3 supercharged __________________ 2010 CGM 2SS M6 w/ FM AT Cat back

06-28-2009, 09:36 PM	#40
kdoske Waiting For My 1SS/RS SIM Drives: Sold My Lancer, now carless :/ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: louisiana Posts: 950	I forgot all about this. __________________ Order# NJPW8K 1SS/RS SIM Black Interior 1100 (original order date): 04/16/09 2000 (dealer received allocation): 2500 (order preferenced): 3000 (accepted to production): 3300 (scheduled for prod): 3400 (broadcast): 3800 (produced): 4000/4B00 (available to ship/bayed): 4200 (shipped): 4300 (intermediate, may be multiple):

06-28-2009, 09:47 PM	#41
csg93 Keep the Faith! Drives: 2001 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 32	idk why but i just like superchargers from people like lingenfelter and kenne bell more than turbos.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
CAMARO WIKI	Tran	Wiki	66	04-22-2024 11:41 AM
Free headers and exhuast for 2010 SS Camaro	aztodd	Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons	9	07-16-2009 08:05 PM
Motorgen LA Invasion Videos (58) and Pics Thread	SeanPlunk	USA - California	5	05-31-2009 01:23 AM
2010 Chevy Camaro SS Indy 500 Pace Car Drive	linkwpc	Camaro Photos \| Spyshots \| Video \| Media Gallery	0	05-23-2009 09:47 PM
Ambient lighting (ABL) - the FINAL update = LIMITED TO DOOR PANELS	CamaroScotty	5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions	338	04-15-2009 05:33 PM