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kenkartasasmita · 10-08-2012, 07:26 AM

so i just watched this video on youtube and curious who will on dragstrip. and the other think that i dont understand why would you pay $100k more for this ugly and slow car. the price of the panamera is $146k. i mean u can buy the zl1 for $60k which is faster, but if u think the zl1 not fast enough you still have more money around 86k. that's a lot of money right? u can the cams, headers and so on to make your car faster.

Stingray · 10-08-2012, 07:41 AM

Everyone has their own preference and subjective taste in cars. I don't think it's that slow (0-6 in 4.1 and 1/4 in 12.7), and the technology, amenities, build, quality & materials are top shelf - so you get what you pay for. A Porsche is a Porsche. The styling is controversial - you either like it or you don't. I'd take one... but I'd still have a Camaro and other cars in the garage.

BlackinBlack · 10-08-2012, 07:57 AM

Being a 4 door car a better question would be why not buy a CTS-V Sedan or a AMG Mercedes. Either car is much faster and looks a ton better. (I would love to have a CTS-V sedan.

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At the best the styling does not attract any attention.... but for most it is UGLY UGLY UGLY.

kenkartasasmita · 10-08-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Forty5th

Everyone has their own preference and subjective taste in cars. I don't think it's that slow (0-6 in 4.1 and 1/4 in 12.7), and the technology, amenities, build, quality & materials are top shelf - so you get what you pay for. A Porsche is a Porsche. The styling is controversial - you either like it or you don't. I'd take one... but I'd still have a Camaro and other cars in the garage.

its quite slow for a $146k car. lol jk jk. yes its not that slow, but at least it should be around 500ish hp with that price.

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Originally Posted by BlackinBlack

Being a 4 door car a better question would be why not buy a CTS-V Sedan or a AMG Mercedes. Either car is much faster and looks a ton better. (I would love to have a CTS-V sedan.

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At the best the styling does not attract any attention.... but for most it is UGLY UGLY UGLY.

wait a sec. how much is an AMG mercedes?

BlackinBlack · 10-08-2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kenkartasasmita

wait a sec. how much is an AMG mercedes?

E class AMG starts at 90K. Depending on what model and spec you can build one for the price of a Panamera. Did not say it was cheap. If it was my money it would be a CTS-V.

lexlueger · 10-08-2012, 08:49 AM

Slow? Apples to apples. Porsche panamera turbo S destroys a ZL anything. 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. Different cars marketed to a different demographic.

BlackinBlack · 10-08-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lexlueger

Slow? Apples to apples. Porsche panamera turbo S destroys a ZL anything. 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. Different cars marketed to a different demographic.

Different car. That one starts @ 175K

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/pa...amera-turbo-s/

It is fast. But still ugly.

This is the one being discussed.

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/pa.../panamera-gts/

lexlueger · 10-08-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackinBlack

Different car. That one starts @ 175K

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/pa...amera-turbo-s/

It is fast. But still ugly.

This is the one being discussed.

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/pa.../panamera-gts/

Yes. I know. That's why I said apples to apples. The GTS is a more track orientated model. I agree not a good looking car but you can not argue with it's performance. Quite a feat for a huge four door grand touring automobile.

SSeric · 10-09-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lexlueger

Different cars marketed to a different demographic.

This. The Porsche Panamera is marketed to a different demographic with a different set of demands. Does the ZL1 put down better numbers at a much lower pricepoint? Absolutely. But let's keep this in perspective. The ZL1 is a domestic muscle car that was specifically designed for raw power & track performance. The GTS is an all-wheel drive sports sedan and, given the demographic, investment, and focus of the Panamera, there is much more to consider. Sure, the ZL1 puts down a lot of power and looks great, but the balance & refinement of the Porsche itself is absolutely incredible.

Putting that aside...if the guy owns a $150k car as his daily driver, chances are he's got something in the garage that would put that ZL1 to shame.

b4z · 10-09-2012, 05:23 PM

If I'm gonna buy a sedan anything, it better seat 5 people. You just don't ever know when your kid wants to bring friends with him, or our dd'ing drunk people home.
The cayenne appeals to me more for its 5 passenger capability and some utility.

Fenderaddict2 · 10-12-2012, 12:37 PM

The Porsche is an unbelievable car to drive. Fast grand tourer, brilliant canyon carver, muscle car, sports car. And the interior is a great place to be, especially as you can't see the outside from there. One of the best cars I've ever had the pleasure to drive and yet I don't want one, not even a little bit. Call me shallow.

TOBY J · 10-13-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lexlueger

Slow? Apples to apples. Porsche panamera turbo S destroys a ZL anything. 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. Different cars marketed to a different demographic.

^^^^^^^ this
the turbo panamera is a SICK fast- heavy 4 door sedan.
looks are subjective.... on non GM type sites the majority happen to think the CTSV is ugly which i happen to agree with.

L99CAMA2011 · 10-13-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SSeric

This. The Porsche Panamera is marketed to a different demographic with a different set of demands. Does the ZL1 put down better numbers at a much lower pricepoint? Absolutely. But let's keep this in perspective. The ZL1 is a domestic muscle car that was specifically designed for raw power & track performance. The GTS is an all-wheel drive sports sedan and, given the demographic, investment, and focus of the Panamera, there is much more to consider. Sure, the ZL1 puts down a lot of power and looks great, but the balance & refinement of the Porsche itself is absolutely incredible.

Putting that aside...if the guy owns a $150k car as his daily driver, chances are he's got something in the garage that would put that ZL1 to shame.

Chances are his other car maybe a ZL-1. Also a ZL-1 would be more compared to the turbo version with comparable hp. The build quality in the Panamera is breath taking even compared to BMW 7s and Mercs somewhat.

L99CAMA2011 · 10-13-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

The Porsche is an unbelievable car to drive. Fast grand tourer, brilliant canyon carver, muscle car, sports car. And the interior is a great place to be, especially as you can't see the outside from there. One of the best cars I've ever had the pleasure to drive and yet I don't want one, not even a little bit. Call me shallow.

You're not shallow bud, I love Porsche and I too don't feel need for one. GT3 or GT3 RS now we're talking.

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Stingray just can't get enough Drives: a bunch of fast toys... Join Date: May 2012 Location: SoFla Posts: 3,605 View My Garage	Everyone has their own preference and subjective taste in cars. I don't think it's that slow (0-6 in 4.1 and 1/4 in 12.7), and the technology, amenities, build, quality & materials are top shelf - so you get what you pay for. A Porsche is a Porsche. The styling is controversial - you either like it or you don't. I'd take one... but I'd still have a Camaro and other cars in the garage.

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b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	If I'm gonna buy a sedan anything, it better seat 5 people. You just don't ever know when your kid wants to bring friends with him, or our dd'ing drunk people home. The cayenne appeals to me more for its 5 passenger capability and some utility.