MotorTrend Pits the ZL1 vs GT500 on the Street, Dragstrip, and Racetrack - Page 4 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

69NMYSS · 06-27-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GrabberB5.Slow

It has the SVT performance package, which includes upgraded Torsen Differential, Upgraded Dampers, different rear springs along with upgraded wheels. All for $3,400.

Where is this "$8,000" package you speak of?

There's the SVT Track Package that includes an upgraded cooling system for $2,900 but the article never said it was included. Even if it was equipped, we arn't at an added $8,000 .

Taken from the MT article

PRICE AS TESTED
ZL1 - $56,365
GT500 - $64,770

Rangore · 06-27-2012, 10:51 AM

Both great cars! ZL1 seems to be more livable for driving comfort. Great comparison article.

I'm a Chevy guy, so it's Camaro all the way for my vote of best car.

rez333 · 06-27-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

Exactly, there was an almost $9k price difference in the cars tested.

That's not an argument. European cars are frequently matched against each other with greater than $10k price difference. It's all about % difference not $ difference, and the % difference is within 30% which is quite reasonable for match-ups.

69NMYSS · 06-27-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rez333

That's not an argument. European cars are frequently matched against each other with greater than $10k price difference. It's all about % difference not $ difference, and the % difference is within 30% which is quite reasonable for match-ups.

30% is reasonable

Testing a $200k car against a $210k car is reasonable

Betiwin · 06-27-2012, 10:54 AM

The Shelby has options the Z doesn't have that do nothing for performance. Glass top, NAV, car covers, subwoofers don't count. It's about a 5K price difference between the two.

69NMYSS · 06-27-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Betiwin

The Shelby has options the Z doesn't have that do nothing for performance. Glass top, NAV, car covers, subwoofers don't count. It's about a 5K price difference between the two.

And the ZL1 was still declared the winner, by several reviews now. Although the GT500 is a great car, its overpriced and still not quite as good as the ZL1.

Betiwin · 06-27-2012, 10:56 AM

What about an Auto ZL1? Does any one think the magazines would pick the Auto Z against the GT500. We all keep asking about the base GT500 what about the auto Z that a large percentage have bought.

WheelmanSS · 06-27-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tysen

Anyone can drive in a straight line.

lol. Ever drag / bracket raced? Yea, anyone can do it

Betiwin · 06-27-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

And the ZL1 was still declared the winner, by several reviews now. Although the GT500 is a great car, its overpriced and still not quite as good as the ZL1.

Yes it has been awarded the #1 spot by 4 magazines but lost 85% percent of the performance tests as shown in that list. Happens to the ZO6 all the time too tho.

69NMYSS · 06-27-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Betiwin

What about an Auto ZL1? Does any one think the magazines would pick the Auto Z against the GT500. We all keep asking about the base GT500 what about the auto Z that a large percentage have bought.

Good point, GM claims the auto is quicker, lets see if this holds true

garcmol · 06-27-2012, 11:01 AM

My favorite part

The ZL1 holding 1.27g @ 111mph.... wow! That is planted, solid

69NMYSS · 06-27-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Betiwin

Yes it has been awarded the #1 spot by 4 magazines but lost 85% percent of the performance tests as shown in that list. Happens to the ZO6 all the time too tho.

Just cannot succumb to the fact the ZL1 is a better all around performer

A true GT car that can be driven comfortably to work, and then taken to the track without having to spend money on any upgrades. Furthermore, the warranty is honered at the track as well.

Betiwin · 06-27-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

My favorite part

The ZL1 holding 1.27g @ 111mph.... wow! That is planted, solid

Wow crazy when considering its a 4 door chasis handling like a porche!

hognutz · 06-27-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Betiwin

What about an Auto ZL1? Does any one think the magazines would pick the Auto Z against the GT500. We all keep asking about the base GT500 what about the auto Z that a large percentage have bought.

I don't think so. even if the .1 tenth in the quarter gm claims happens that still puts it .4 behind in the drag race.

I don't think the auto will be faster around a track.

If you want an auto though you can't even get it in the shelby so at that point epic fail ford.

the corbra jet has an auto.

06-27-2012, 10:51 AM	#44
Rangore Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Ed Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,220	Both great cars! ZL1 seems to be more livable for driving comfort. Great comparison article. I'm a Chevy guy, so it's Camaro all the way for my vote of best car. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Edition - No longer owned: 2010 Camaro 2LT, 1993 Camaro Z-28

06-27-2012, 11:01 AM	#53
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,199	My favorite part The ZL1 holding 1.27g @ 111mph.... wow! That is planted, solid __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

06-27-2012, 10:54 AM	#47
Betiwin Drives: CTS-V Coupe and GT500 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 189	The Shelby has options the Z doesn't have that do nothing for performance. Glass top, NAV, car covers, subwoofers don't count. It's about a 5K price difference between the two.

06-27-2012, 10:56 AM	#49
Betiwin Drives: CTS-V Coupe and GT500 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 189	What about an Auto ZL1? Does any one think the magazines would pick the Auto Z against the GT500. We all keep asking about the base GT500 what about the auto Z that a large percentage have bought.