Chuck Nash Chevrolet in San Marcos, Texas blew my motor up! *Update on Pg. 17* - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Nutro · 06-13-2013, 03:11 PM

If anyone hasn't seen this thread yet:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299556

****STAY AWAY FROM CHUCK NASH CHEVROLET IN SAN MARCOS, TEXAS****

I took my car to the dealer for the lifter noises. The dealer decided to install a new cam and lifters. The moron mechanic did not install the cam correctly I guess. They have been VERY vague with the reason this happened and not very forthcoming at all with details.

I just got a call from the service manager and he said:

"The tip of the cam sensor broke and that caused the motor to lose timing. When it lost timing, the valve might have contacted the piston. We ordered new valves and are having them overnighted to us so we can get the car fixed."

He kept mentioning how HARD and DILIGENTLY they are working on my car for a favorable outcome.

I told him I wanted a new motor and if not, they can keep the car and GM can buy me out of it.

I am SO friggin pissed and upset. I DO NOT want a "repaired" motor.

If the guy can't install a damn camshaft, how in the bloody hell do they expect to "rebuild" the heads? No way.

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AmericanMuscleCars · 06-13-2013, 03:15 PM

Good luck with that...

BenningJ · 06-13-2013, 03:19 PM

Damn dude, that blows! Good luck with your fight. I would want a new motor or at least something they didn't touch internally.

DRKS1D3 · 06-13-2013, 03:20 PM

"Sorry we broke your $125,000 Ming Vase, we'll superglue it back together...good as new.".

CamaroTom · 06-13-2013, 03:22 PM

I've read where GM has replaced motors due to reasons not as major as the OP's.

What about the piston that slapped the valve? I would push for a new motor if it was myself.

Dznts · 06-13-2013, 03:23 PM

that sucks man. i hope everything works out for you! push for the new engine!!!!

vroomapunk · 06-13-2013, 03:26 PM

The engine you would get, would be a rebuilt or refurbished one most likely anyway, but it would be better than what you have.

I would push for them to replace the whole unit, rather than continuing repair the block that had real damage.

Est.July.4.1776 · 06-13-2013, 03:33 PM

Man, I'd be furious...

Yendor · 06-13-2013, 03:34 PM

Agreed, the piston may be damaged, is the cam sensor located internal to anything or is all external and the parts just ended up on the floor?

Yeah, replace my engine, you farked it up.

HDRDTD · 06-13-2013, 03:54 PM

IF the valve(s) hit the piston due to the loss of timing, what damage was done to the piston(s).

At the very least, I'd ask to see the damaged parts and ask what kind of warranty the repaired engine will have.

Pro Stock John · 06-13-2013, 04:02 PM

If they dug into your engine, they will be providing you with a running car. Pretty clear cut.

SC2150 · 06-13-2013, 04:05 PM

Cam sensor is only to tell the PCM the position...it has NOTHING to do with cam timing....that is done with the chain and gears and any simple backyard mechanic can do it so he is filling you full of BS. This is what makes the "stealership" list. BS'ing customers drives me nuts.....and it is so prevalent.

They think all car owners now days are clueless.

Good luck, but demand a new motor. PTV interference is not good.

Wizard1183 · 06-13-2013, 04:12 PM

Here's my reasoning behind not replacing the entire motor; though I know some really dont care, but its no longer a matching serial # to the car. If they blew my motor, and opted to replace it, 2 things would happen. Theyd install an LS7 in it at cost and exclude ALL labor charges, OR get me another car.

Nutro · 06-13-2013, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolStoryBro

if this is an automatic, it has the L99 and the actuator can easily be installed incorrectly if not paying attention.

Yup its an L99.

I just pulled into the dealership now. Gonna see if they have the heads off.

06-13-2013, 03:11 PM	#1
Nutro Drives: 2011 2SS Synergy Green Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,670	Chuck Nash Chevrolet in San Marcos, Texas blew my motor up! Update on Pg. 17 If anyone hasn't seen this thread yet: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299556 **STAY AWAY FROM CHUCK NASH CHEVROLET IN SAN MARCOS, TEXAS** I took my car to the dealer for the lifter noises. The dealer decided to install a new cam and lifters. The moron mechanic did not install the cam correctly I guess. They have been VERY vague with the reason this happened and not very forthcoming at all with details. I just got a call from the service manager and he said: "The tip of the cam sensor broke and that caused the motor to lose timing. When it lost timing, the valve might have contacted the piston. We ordered new valves and are having them overnighted to us so we can get the car fixed." He kept mentioning how HARD and DILIGENTLY they are working on my car for a favorable outcome. I told him I wanted a new motor and if not, they can keep the car and GM can buy me out of it. I am SO friggin pissed and upset. I DO NOT want a "repaired" motor. If the guy can't install a damn camshaft, how in the bloody hell do they expect to "rebuild" the heads? No way. EDIT: __________________ L99 With a Maggie Last edited by Nutro; 06-27-2013 at 02:52 PM.

06-13-2013, 03:19 PM	#3
BenningJ Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa Posts: 1,581 View My Garage	Damn dude, that blows! Good luck with your fight. I would want a new motor or at least something they didn't touch internally. __________________ 2013 Camaro 1SS/RS - Ashen Gray Metallic \| LS3 \| CAI Inductions, Inc Intake \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| Dynatech 1.875" Long Tube Headers \| Apex Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam \| BTR 7.400" Push Rods \|LS2 Dampener \| Melling 10296 Oil Pump \| IWIS Chain \| BTR .660" Dual Valve Springs \| BTR Trunion Upgrade Kit \| Lethal Racing Tuned \| Anvil Notch Spoiler \| BMR Split Drop Springs \| Eaton TrueTrac \| GM 3.91 Gears \| LPW Diff Cover \| Rohana RF2 275/40 20x10F 315/35 20x11R \| BMR Polyurethane Motor Mounts

06-13-2013, 03:20 PM	#4
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06-13-2013, 03:22 PM	#5
CamaroTom Drives: 1/70 2013 BRM 2SS RS 1LE NPP NAV Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 1,082	I've read where GM has replaced motors due to reasons not as major as the OP's. What about the piston that slapped the valve? I would push for a new motor if it was myself. __________________

06-13-2013, 03:23 PM	#6
Dznts Anabolic Connoisseur Drives: Sold - Blown Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 22,094	that sucks man. i hope everything works out for you! push for the new engine!!!! __________________

06-13-2013, 03:15 PM	#2
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06-13-2013, 03:26 PM	#7
vroomapunk [COTW 5/12/14] Drives: 2012 CRT NF Cammed 2SS/RS For Sale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NOLA Posts: 6,115 View My Garage	The engine you would get, would be a rebuilt or refurbished one most likely anyway, but it would be better than what you have. I would push for them to replace the whole unit, rather than continuing repair the block that had real damage. __________________

06-13-2013, 03:33 PM	#8
Est.July.4.1776 The pride of the CN Drives: '13 AGM 2SS/RS M6 & '70 Chevelle SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: Genesee County, Michigan Posts: 601	Man, I'd be furious... __________________ "I've been working on the railroad, all mother f###ing day." ...and yeah, we hauled your Camaro. Class 1 Freight Rail Conductor - Master Mason - NRA Life Member - Tennessee Squire - Firefighter I & II Certified My other ride has 4,400+hp and corners like it's on rails... because it is.

06-13-2013, 03:34 PM	#9
Yendor Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS 1LE Hyper Blue Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minnesota Posts: 661	Agreed, the piston may be damaged, is the cam sensor located internal to anything or is all external and the parts just ended up on the floor? Yeah, replace my engine, you farked it up. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS 1LE Hyper Blue

06-13-2013, 03:54 PM	#10
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	IF the valve(s) hit the piston due to the loss of timing, what damage was done to the piston(s). At the very least, I'd ask to see the damaged parts and ask what kind of warranty the repaired engine will have.

06-13-2013, 04:02 PM	#11
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	If they dug into your engine, they will be providing you with a running car. Pretty clear cut. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

06-13-2013, 04:05 PM	#12
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Cam sensor is only to tell the PCM the position...it has NOTHING to do with cam timing....that is done with the chain and gears and any simple backyard mechanic can do it so he is filling you full of BS. This is what makes the "stealership" list. BS'ing customers drives me nuts.....and it is so prevalent. They think all car owners now days are clueless. Good luck, but demand a new motor. PTV interference is not good.

06-13-2013, 04:12 PM	#13
Wizard1183 Drives: ABM SS2/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lafayette,LA Posts: 2,231	Here's my reasoning behind not replacing the entire motor; though I know some really dont care, but its no longer a matching serial # to the car. If they blew my motor, and opted to replace it, 2 things would happen. Theyd install an LS7 in it at cost and exclude ALL labor charges, OR get me another car. __________________ Life is short, drive it like you stole it!