10-16-2012, 05:08 PM | #15 |
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I think you might be right, they copied the zl1 anti roll bar drop points to get more roll stiffness, reducing understeer.
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10-17-2012, 07:22 AM | #16 |
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10-17-2012, 09:02 AM | #17 |
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I want to know how the 1LE will do against the Laguna Seca!
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http://jalopnik.com/5931109/camaro-1le-around-the-block
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10-17-2012, 09:33 AM | #20 |
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I sure hope so. I'm expecting motor trend to step up. They usually have videos to go with their comparisons too. I just hope they put it against the Laguna Seca. It seems the other magazines don't think the 1LE can hang with it.
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10-17-2012, 12:48 PM | #22 |
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PS. Have I mentioned the grip in the ZL1? Tenacious.
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I am confused how balance and tossability are present in the same car? You would think balance is tied to a car that has neutral handling (1LE) and very good limit grip on both axles.
I am not sure what to understand tossability as? Response to inputs? Easier to drift/slide?
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10-17-2012, 06:50 PM | #24 |
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Probably perceived lightness. The flex in the Mustang's weaker chassis will add or take away from its "perceived" capabilities. Give me a more rigid chassis to work with any day.
Also as a note the Camaro's more rigid chassis will give it a feeling/sense of being heavier than it actually is, "perceived" as less tossable. Full framed race-cars do not feel tossable they feel planted! |
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My 2007 GT with mods made the 2011 5.0L feel like a pig and it also had more understeer making me believe the 5.0 motor was heavier than the 4.6 3v.
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10-23-2012, 05:22 PM | #28 |
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I think the motor was slightly lighter, but the front end definitely picked up weight or the distribution of weight overall. Can't stand understeer, and while oversteer can be fun I absolutely love a neutral car. The Boss was very, very close especially on stock rubber (I screwed that up), but the kings in that category are the Elsie and new Cayman S. I'm sure there are others, I just haven't had the pleasure. All my experience with BMW's is that they always leaned toward manageable oversteer whereas Audis just plow like pigs which is why the R8 was such a brilliant departure for Audi...never considered the brand seriously before that. Mazda has also from time to time, impressed me. Ford and GM, seldom but in recent years they are moving in the right direction. I said this once before here and got shouted down for it, but a lighter Camaro with the benefits of the MR suspension I bet would be a handling dream.
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