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JEFF75645 · 09-01-2012, 07:42 PM

I had my Camaro Dyno tuned a few months ago, but ever since the car has been shifting really hard(A6). I mean to the point no one wants to drive it( possibly a good thing). But now no one even wants to ride in it any more. At low or high speed or rpm's it will snap your head back. I don't mind really but am worried about something breaking at some point. Any input is appreciated.

BlaqWhole · 09-01-2012, 07:53 PM

Well even if it's just for comforts sake you could always have the tune changed to decrease the shift firmness. Really, you want the shift to occur quickly. But the quicker it shifts, the firmer it shifts. It shouldn't be shifting as hard as you're saying it is tho. So just see if the tuner can leave you with a few different settings that you can choose for yourself.

Supercharged SS · 09-01-2012, 08:01 PM

It can be lighting fast and not snap your neck. Did you ask your tuner about this? He should be able to make it how you want.

JEFF75645 · 09-01-2012, 08:15 PM

Well he said the only option was to go back to stock settings. But wanted to hear some second opinions first. Thanks for your responses.

Iam Broke · 09-01-2012, 08:25 PM

Find a real tuner. Sounds like all he knows is to max out the pressures.

JEFF75645 · 09-01-2012, 09:38 PM

It's going to be re tuned after the cam install. But my real major concern was if it's doing this now what's it gonna due with the cam and such. But I guess the new tune will take care of it.

Higgs Boson · 09-01-2012, 10:16 PM

even leaving the stock settings in the tcm, the trans shift feel can change when you install things like gears, cams, change spark timing, etc etc.

the trans logic is not the same as the 4 speeds and work in conjunction with the engine tune.

find a new tuner.

litle88 · 09-02-2012, 05:51 AM

Looks like he just disabled the torque management. Your Trans will need tuning as well Jeff and since your going to be making more power a Trans cooler will be in order as well.

JEFF75645 · 09-02-2012, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88

Looks like he just disabled the torque management. Your Trans will need tuning as well Jeff and since your going to be making more power a Trans cooler will be in order as well.

We are installing a trans cooler. The new tuner said it was a must.

nighttowl · 09-02-2012, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iam Broke

Find a real tuner. Sounds like all he knows is to max out the pressures.

+1

or get HP tuners, and fix it yourself.

Pro Stock John · 09-03-2012, 12:18 PM

If you have no torque management it will probably bark the tires and shift hard. Jim @ Speed Inc. left a bunch in for me since I drive around on street tires.

Tampa Tuning · 09-06-2012, 06:48 PM

Since we do so many automatic transmissions at Tampa Tuning, and hired the guy who wrote the book for the tuning school on the A6 transmission tuning, we've slight modified how we configure our transmission stratigies. We use your torque management to assist with WOT shifts, and also use it to have firm and quick shifts under 35% throttle.

I get constant calls from shops around the world wanting to buy our transmission tune. I know they use it over and over again, but I design it owner to owner.

The first conversation with a vehicle owner is how do you want your transmission set up. Im going to make it nice and firm at WOT, but do you want your transmission quick, hard and firm every time, or quick, short and firmer the more you tip into the throttle.

I found guys like quick and firm shifts in traffic, but harder, shorter and firmer after 40% throttle position. As the transmission experts, we can do that.

Most tunes I see just increase pressure and shorten the shift times and send you on your way and call it a transmission tune.

the A6 is a great transmission for comfort tuning, It just doesnt hold high horsepower like Id like to it
www.TampaTuning.com
Phil

lscamaro · 09-06-2012, 08:19 PM

Man Phil, if you guys could tune the v6 you'd have my business in a heartbeat. The wealth of knowledge you have is amazing!

Higgs Boson · 09-06-2012, 09:14 PM

it's nice that the new transmissions have the ability to customize torque management so easily. it's actually easier to tune the a6 than the a4, IMO.

if there are really tuners out there tuning the a6 the same way as an a4, they really need to get their heads out of the sand.

09-01-2012, 07:42 PM	#1
JEFF75645 Drives: his wife crazy buying mods Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gilmer, TX Posts: 1,342 View My Garage	Problem with Dyno Tune. I had my Camaro Dyno tuned a few months ago, but ever since the car has been shifting really hard(A6). I mean to the point no one wants to drive it( possibly a good thing). But now no one even wants to ride in it any more. At low or high speed or rpm's it will snap your head back. I don't mind really but am worried about something breaking at some point. Any input is appreciated. __________________ Gone But Not Forgotten

09-01-2012, 08:15 PM	#4
JEFF75645 Drives: his wife crazy buying mods Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gilmer, TX Posts: 1,342 View My Garage	Well he said the only option was to go back to stock settings. But wanted to hear some second opinions first. Thanks for your responses. __________________ Gone But Not Forgotten

09-01-2012, 08:25 PM	#5
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	Find a real tuner. Sounds like all he knows is to max out the pressures. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

09-01-2012, 09:38 PM	#6
JEFF75645 Drives: his wife crazy buying mods Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gilmer, TX Posts: 1,342 View My Garage	It's going to be re tuned after the cam install. But my real major concern was if it's doing this now what's it gonna due with the cam and such. But I guess the new tune will take care of it. __________________ Gone But Not Forgotten

09-02-2012, 05:51 AM	#8
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Looks like he just disabled the torque management. Your Trans will need tuning as well Jeff and since your going to be making more power a Trans cooler will be in order as well. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

09-01-2012, 07:53 PM	#2
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	Well even if it's just for comforts sake you could always have the tune changed to decrease the shift firmness. Really, you want the shift to occur quickly. But the quicker it shifts, the firmer it shifts. It shouldn't be shifting as hard as you're saying it is tho. So just see if the tuner can leave you with a few different settings that you can choose for yourself.

09-01-2012, 08:01 PM	#3
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	It can be lighting fast and not snap your neck. Did you ask your tuner about this? He should be able to make it how you want.

09-01-2012, 10:16 PM	#7
Higgs Boson Perpetual Order Drives: indeed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 1,277	even leaving the stock settings in the tcm, the trans shift feel can change when you install things like gears, cams, change spark timing, etc etc. the trans logic is not the same as the 4 speeds and work in conjunction with the engine tune. find a new tuner.

09-03-2012, 12:18 PM	#11
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	If you have no torque management it will probably bark the tires and shift hard. Jim @ Speed Inc. left a bunch in for me since I drive around on street tires. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

09-06-2012, 06:48 PM	#12
Tampa Tuning Account Suspended Drives: TAMPA TUNING FACEBOOK & INSTAGRAM Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 3,044	Tampa Tuning Camaro Corvette GTO GM Trucks performance tuning Since we do so many automatic transmissions at Tampa Tuning, and hired the guy who wrote the book for the tuning school on the A6 transmission tuning, we've slight modified how we configure our transmission stratigies. We use your torque management to assist with WOT shifts, and also use it to have firm and quick shifts under 35% throttle. I get constant calls from shops around the world wanting to buy our transmission tune. I know they use it over and over again, but I design it owner to owner. The first conversation with a vehicle owner is how do you want your transmission set up. Im going to make it nice and firm at WOT, but do you want your transmission quick, hard and firm every time, or quick, short and firmer the more you tip into the throttle. I found guys like quick and firm shifts in traffic, but harder, shorter and firmer after 40% throttle position. As the transmission experts, we can do that. Most tunes I see just increase pressure and shorten the shift times and send you on your way and call it a transmission tune. the A6 is a great transmission for comfort tuning, It just doesnt hold high horsepower like Id like to it www.TampaTuning.com Phil

09-06-2012, 08:19 PM	#13
lscamaro Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,305	Man Phil, if you guys could tune the v6 you'd have my business in a heartbeat. The wealth of knowledge you have is amazing! __________________ Click Picture for Build Thread

09-06-2012, 09:14 PM	#14
Higgs Boson Perpetual Order Drives: indeed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 1,277	it's nice that the new transmissions have the ability to customize torque management so easily. it's actually easier to tune the a6 than the a4, IMO. if there are really tuners out there tuning the a6 the same way as an a4, they really need to get their heads out of the sand.