The simple way to 500hp? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Ringo · 08-29-2009, 04:35 PM

With my 2SS/RS on the horizon, I'm finding myself wondering what's the easiest way to get 75 or so more horse out of the LS3 and keep it simple. Shorty headers, CAI, and a performance tune will get at best 50 or so I'll bet. Leaving another 25 or so to go. Opinions? Dyno results? Buehler?

T D C · 08-29-2009, 04:54 PM

full headers with complete performance exhaust system , ECU reprograming ,and a performance air induction i think you will be very close to 500 horses

POWERFREAK · 08-29-2009, 04:57 PM

go w/ LT headers (instead of shorties), CAI, tune, axleback exhaust...and there's an aftermarket pulley that added 10hp (see link below). All that would probably be around +75hp (at the crank anyway).

pulley install...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...pulley+install

*radz28* · 08-29-2009, 04:59 PM

The quickest and easiest way, if you know how to do it, is nitrous probably... You'd probably better make sure you know what you're doing

If you're going for RWHP horsepower, though, I don't think you're going to get there with bolt-ons, including rockers and an LSXR intake manifold. You're going to need a cam, IMHO, to get there.

There are a bunch of choices though. It depends on your needs and $$$

Sack Rat 2SS · 08-29-2009, 05:05 PM

Most of the HP references on most forums that I am aware of use RWHP, not flywheel. It can be confusing at times unless you are specific. So, with that said you are looking for about 63 rwhp on a LS-3 SS. Most bone stock LS-3's do about 355 rwhp for openers. Good luck. Fine looking Mustang in the pic.

Ringo · 08-29-2009, 05:12 PM

I shoud have specified that, I'm looking for 500 at the crank. With parasitic loss through the trans there's no way to get to 500 RWH without going into the engine. A 500 horse engine will suit me just fine. I'm happy with the 450 in my Mustang!

Jason 98 TA · 08-30-2009, 11:36 AM

500 is good, but 600 is better! We just finished a heads/cam combo that will mail order tuning makes over 600hp & drives awesome! Look for pics & info to be posted next week. The best part is the heads cam will use your heads as exchange so your probably talking about 1500 bux or so for heads cam that will add 100hp....

Ringo · 08-30-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

500 is good, but 600 is better! We just finished a heads/cam combo that will mail order tuning makes over 600hp & drives awesome! Look for pics & info to be posted next week. The best part is the heads cam will use your heads as exchange so your probably talking about 1500 bux or so for heads cam that will add 100hp....

What about emissions? Can it pass?

2010 CAMARO SS RS · 08-30-2009, 11:52 AM

American Racing Long Tube headers and tune(50-60hp), New Era OTR ram air intake(20-30hp), and any axleback exhaust(10-20hp). thats 80-110hp!!

IPS Brandon · 08-31-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ringo

With my 2SS/RS on the horizon, I'm finding myself wondering what's the easiest way to get 75 or so more horse out of the LS3 and keep it simple. Shorty headers, CAI, and a performance tune will get at best 50 or so I'll bet. Leaving another 25 or so to go. Opinions? Dyno results? Buehler?

Long tubes, X-pipe, CAI, 160 thermostat, FAST intake manifold, TB porting, and a Protune, and you will be nearly at your goals. It also depends on how your measuring your horsepower, we typically tell our clients rear wheel horsepower numbers you would expect to make on a chassis dyno, not brake horsepower numbers (many vendors use to over hype products)

Regards
-Brandon

themossman · 08-31-2009, 09:38 PM

How are you measuring HP? I'm not at 500 rwhp..but estimated crank I'm over....

Jason 98 TA · 09-01-2009, 09:02 AM

That's find of the math that manufacturers like you to follow but it's far from accurate. Most of the headers, intake & tune cars make 415rwhp. Baselines are typically about 365 or so. I think 50rwhp is pretty much what you'd expect to see from those mods honestly. 50hp from a few easy mods is awesome though!!

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Originally Posted by 2010 CAMARO SS RS

American Racing Long Tube headers and tune(50-60hp), New Era OTR ram air intake(20-30hp), and any axleback exhaust(10-20hp). thats 80-110hp!!

*CamaroSpike23* · 09-01-2009, 09:12 AM

nitrous...lol

CGM2SSRS · 09-01-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringo

With my 2SS/RS on the horizon, I'm finding myself wondering what's the easiest way to get 75 or so more horse out of the LS3 and keep it simple. Shorty headers, CAI, and a performance tune will get at best 50 or so I'll bet. Leaving another 25 or so to go. Opinions? Dyno results? Buehler?

Like others, I think the easiest and cheapest way to get there is by squirt. But looking at your stang, my guess is you don't cheat like that. It's all about how deep the pockets are? I too don't play with replacing pulley's to achieve a negligible gain. Although I will,"stack" bolt on's at the intake side. Like a vara intake. Porting the intake/throttle body and adding a spacer. I've already achieved 32RWH (410RWHP) from LT's with cats and an axle back exhaust. And a good safe tune alone. Waiting for the intake parts to add them. The dyno after all this is said and done is likely to end up with the OE HP numbers from GM. At the wheels,not the crank. Seat of the pants should bring it close to my EX 07 GT500.
Hey Ringo, what does that shaker badge read on the stang? (nice car)

08-29-2009, 04:35 PM	#1
Ringo Politically incorrect Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Soggy Seattle Posts: 782	The simple way to 500hp? With my 2SS/RS on the horizon, I'm finding myself wondering what's the easiest way to get 75 or so more horse out of the LS3 and keep it simple. Shorty headers, CAI, and a performance tune will get at best 50 or so I'll bet. Leaving another 25 or so to go. Opinions? Dyno results? Buehler? __________________ 2SS/RS M6 IO interior. Built 8/14/09. Delivered 9/9/09.

08-29-2009, 04:57 PM	#3
POWERFREAK I.AM. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS/A6 cammed-n-whippled Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,638	go w/ LT headers (instead of shorties), CAI, tune, axleback exhaust...and there's an aftermarket pulley that added 10hp (see link below). All that would probably be around +75hp (at the crank anyway). pulley install... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...pulley+install __________________ NY5thgen.com

08-29-2009, 04:59 PM	#4
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	The quickest and easiest way, if you know how to do it, is nitrous probably... You'd probably better make sure you know what you're doing If you're going for RWHP horsepower, though, I don't think you're going to get there with bolt-ons, including rockers and an LSXR intake manifold. You're going to need a cam, IMHO, to get there. There are a bunch of choices though. It depends on your needs and $$$ __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-29-2009, 05:05 PM	#5
Sack Rat 2SS Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW area, Texas Posts: 884	Most of the HP references on most forums that I am aware of use RWHP, not flywheel. It can be confusing at times unless you are specific. So, with that said you are looking for about 63 rwhp on a LS-3 SS. Most bone stock LS-3's do about 355 rwhp for openers. Good luck. Fine looking Mustang in the pic. __________________ Silver 2SS/RS Man/6 CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers, GM 3.91 Rear Gears

08-29-2009, 05:12 PM	#6
Ringo Politically incorrect Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Soggy Seattle Posts: 782	I shoud have specified that, I'm looking for 500 at the crank. With parasitic loss through the trans there's no way to get to 500 RWH without going into the engine. A 500 horse engine will suit me just fine. I'm happy with the 450 in my Mustang! __________________ 2SS/RS M6 IO interior. Built 8/14/09. Delivered 9/9/09.

08-29-2009, 04:54 PM	#2
T D C Drives: hurst m6 V8 BLK 2SS vin 375 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: laval QC Canada Posts: 50	full headers with complete performance exhaust system , ECU reprograming ,and a performance air induction i think you will be very close to 500 horses

08-30-2009, 11:36 AM	#7
Jason 98 TA Drives: Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,669	500 is good, but 600 is better! We just finished a heads/cam combo that will mail order tuning makes over 600hp & drives awesome! Look for pics & info to be posted next week. The best part is the heads cam will use your heads as exchange so your probably talking about 1500 bux or so for heads cam that will add 100hp....

08-30-2009, 11:52 AM	#9
2010 CAMARO SS RS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 141	American Racing Long Tube headers and tune(50-60hp), New Era OTR ram air intake(20-30hp), and any axleback exhaust(10-20hp). thats 80-110hp!!

08-31-2009, 09:38 PM	#11
themossman Apprehensive Optimist Drives: '10 SS/RS SIM Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: JAX Posts: 1,383	How are you measuring HP? I'm not at 500 rwhp..but estimated crank I'm over.... __________________ Car is for sale --->http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158486 Current Summary: Engine:Phase One-(All work by Vengeance Racing): Custom Cam, AR Headers, ported throttle body, ported intake, custom tune, dual valve springs, hardened push rods, under drive pulley, thermostat, Vararam CAI, C5R timing chain, Melling oil pump catch can, breather, MagnaFlow Sport Axle Back Suspension: Pfadt Sport Sway Bars, Pfadt drop springs Other: MGW Shifter, Custom Paint my build journal ---->http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30057

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