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Old 03-28-2014, 12:45 PM   #43
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It won't take more than a month before we get the Z51 vs Z/28 comparaison and the result will tell the Full Z/28 story.
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:25 PM   #44
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To be more specific the 2010-2011 SS doesn't handle great. The 2012-2014's handle better. And the 1le was introduced for 2013.
There were quite a few changes made to the 2012 SS, One of which involved modifying the floor of the trunk, to accommodate relocated supsension parts.
True, but the issue is I haven't seen any reviews of the updated SS so people will only see reviews talking about how it doesn't handle that well.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:17 PM   #45
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Yeah, and that's where I stopped reading. I used to read Motor Trend all the time, but I just can't stand them these days.
He did say the 1LE though is one of the best handling cars he's ever driven!
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:35 PM   #46
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So a '02 ZO6 can best the '14 Z/28 at the drag strip in other words? Smh.

It's strictly built for track obviously. I wonder what the ratio of people who want a drag strip car or track car are?
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:46 PM   #47
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So a '02 ZO6 can best the '14 Z/28 at the drag strip in other words? Smh.

It's strictly built for track obviously. I wonder what the ratio of people who want a drag strip car or track car are?
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:49 PM   #48
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Let it go...
Ok ok ok. But seriously I'd like to know the ratio of drag to track?
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:51 PM   #49
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Ok ok ok. But seriously I'd like to know the ratio of drag to track?
Put up one of those survey threads and ask your question.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:00 PM   #50
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Why stop at Z06? Go for broke with the 2015 or 2016 ZR1. IMO, they should have never compared a N/A car against two turbo charged ones. So even up the playing field a tad. :-)
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:49 PM   #51
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if you put that kind of cam in it most of the drivability would disappear.

explain

because i know Katech has a cam or two that they use for road race cars that make about 520whp.

The Z/28 dynod at 426

Where would the problem be at? Katech had their hands in helping design the LS7. They had their hands in Corvette Racing.
It is well known that these LS motors have small cams in them for emissions reasons
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:08 PM   #52
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I wonder what the ratio of people who want a drag strip car or track car are?
I think your question is irrelevant. I think GM has a pretty fair idea of who's going to buy the car, and why, and when. And I'm sure a few will actually try the 1/4-mile experience.

BTW, they build 69 COPOs a year. They'll build quite a few MORE Z/28s...

Thanks for your interest.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:21 PM   #53
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Here is the video by Motortrend for those interested in watching what was said.



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Old 03-28-2014, 09:47 PM   #54
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Why on earth would someone want to drag race this car? There are two very obvious Camaros to choose as drag strip cars. Bury the idea of all of the 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th gen Zs that have been put on the strip as a reason for this car to be there. Sure you had stand outs that were road raced, none reached the refinement and engineering in this 5th gen Z/28. You will always see more of the previous gens at the strip, your just will not see a dedicated 5Z/28 raced competitively on the strip.
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:13 AM   #55
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I'll say what I said in the other thread:

Loved the review. Great to see it doing so well. My only problem was that the Porsche (and GT-R, but not so much) were on such crap tires. I realize they are the stock ones, but the Turbo S, PZeros, really? Those are really bad in terms of ultra high performance tires nowadays. They were good when they were new, but the same design has been kicking around for what, the better half of a decade? I guess I am more mad at Porsche for using tires that really are limiting the performance of the car. Especially compared to the awesome tires on the Z/28, it's no surprise the Turbo S was slower. Porsche really has no excuse as their specially developed N0 Michelin Sport Cup 2s come in the exact same size as the OE tires on the Turbo (same size as the GT3). Also they could go less extreme and run a Michelin PSS, which also comes in the exact same size. The PSS has better grip, dry and wet, better tread wear rating, and less road noise than the PZero.

As for the GT-R, the Dunlops are very good tires, but Hankook Ventus R-S3s would deliver significantly better dry track performance. And again the PSS would be a better all around tire, better wet grip, more predictable and better road feel.
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I'll say what I said in the other thread:

Loved the review. Great to see it doing so well. My only problem was that the Porsche (and GT-R, but not so much) were on such crap tires. I realize they are the stock ones, but the Turbo S, PZeros, really? Those are really bad in terms of ultra high performance tires nowadays. They were good when they were new, but the same design has been kicking around for what, the better half of a decade? I guess I am more mad at Porsche for using tires that really are limiting the performance of the car. Especially compared to the awesome tires on the Z/28, it's no surprise the Turbo S was slower. Porsche really has no excuse as their specially developed N0 Michelin Sport Cup 2s come in the exact same size as the OE tires on the Turbo (same size as the GT3). Also they could go less extreme and run a Michelin PSS, which also comes in the exact same size. The PSS has better grip, dry and wet, better tread wear rating, and less road noise than the PZero.

As for the GT-R, the Dunlops are very good tires, but Hankook Ventus R-S3s would deliver significantly better dry track performance. And again the PSS would be a better all around tire, better wet grip, more predictable and better road feel.

Really? Please stop making excuses well if this happened, or that happened, if he/she had been driving. Bottom line is the Z/28 is wicked fast on the track and it surprised the self proclaimed kings at this particular track anyways. Get over it and enjoy watching the progression of the Camaro.
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