09-14-2011, 07:21 PM | #15 |
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If its not spinning it won't feel different. The only nanny that will pull power out without spinning is tq mgt, tip-in tq mgt, etc. That can use a blend of spark reduction and/or throttle reduction to limit torque to a calculated figure.
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09-14-2011, 08:11 PM | #16 | |
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It can also be frustrating (if not dangerous) when you go to pass someone on the highway, and all of the sudden your power is gone. It's easier to compensate for the rear wheels breaking loose than it is to compensate for a sudden lack of power when I'm in the wrong lane looking straight ahead at oncoming traffic. I want to be the one who decides when, and how much, to get out of the throttle.
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09-14-2011, 08:15 PM | #17 |
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you can have the tcs power loss reduced by tuning, so it is still on but not as dangerous, but on city streets i would not disable stabillitrac, that is dangerous
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09-14-2011, 08:18 PM | #18 | |
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Just kidding.
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I had disabled the TC systems ability to affect the engine...and all that did was force it to push through the rear brakes...so I switched it back, and I just disable it when I want it off.
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09-14-2011, 08:30 PM | #20 | |
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Seriously, though, it's frustrating when it kicks in because I forgot to turn it off. I wouldn't mind having it on in dicey weather, but this is not how I learned to drive. It may indeed be a generational thing. I fly for a living, and when the younger guys get in the ****pit, the first thing they do is turn on the autopilot. The first thing I do when I take the controls back is disengage it. EDIT: Now the word "****pit" is not PC? What am I supposed to call it, the pilot-airplane interface station?
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09-14-2011, 08:33 PM | #21 | |
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09-14-2011, 08:38 PM | #22 | |
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When you've logged forty mishap-free driving years and ten thousand mishap-free flight hours, we'll talk about it. I said I would turn it on when road conditions warranted having it on. I don't consider controlling my own throttle to be a death-defying stunt. Furthermore, I don't begrudge you driving with it on all the time. Why should you care if I want mine off? I just asked if it could be done, not a lecture on why I shouldn't do it.
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09-14-2011, 08:49 PM | #23 |
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Even if I had a switch to flip instead of holding a button down for 7 seconds I would be happy. Thats 7 seconds if you held it down right the 1st time, and the 7 more when you realise you were'nt holding your mouth right.
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09-14-2011, 09:03 PM | #24 | |
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All I meant to say is that the road conditions either need to be bad, or the driving ...."questionable" (let's use that word, instead) for Stabilitrac to interefere worth noticing...So if the circumstances don't fit those bills...turning it off, in my opinion, becomes a mind-over-matter type deal... No lecture. No judgement, and no offense. Just commenting and sharing my thoughts.... |
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09-14-2011, 09:05 PM | #25 |
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When doing a burn out, can do it fine w/o touching the button on his car.
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Sorry for the rant. Here's an interesting read on the question of pilots "becoming addicted to the autopilot." I think the same question can be asked of younger drivers who've never actually "driven" the car.
http://www.golfhotelwhiskey.com/are-...the-autopilot/ In the immortal words of Forest Gump, "that's all I have to say about that." EDIT: Except to say this: I can tell you, based on personal experience, the TCS is not a "faster-than-human" system. I can get out of the throttle manually enough to regain traction, then get back in it quicker than the TCS will allow. And you don't have to possess Mario Andretti driving skills (I certainly don't) for this to be true. The delay waiting for the power to come back though TCS is excruciating, hence the reason for turning it off.
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