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calinkaos · 09-28-2012, 10:45 AM

So I want your opinion on something fellow C5ers. I got a custom tune and was never told my vehicle would be locked by the tuning program. I have all original records and consent forms. I went to get a GM warranty reflash and the dealership couldn't access the ecu. I am considering filing a class action lawsuit against the company that tuned my car to allow access to my tune files and my ecu. What do you all think? Anyone ever heard of someone trying this?

Ject · 09-28-2012, 10:47 AM

Who tuned it ?

babytiger · 09-28-2012, 10:52 AM

GM won't 'warranty flash' your ecm if a tune has been done. It would negate your tune as well.
So its one or the other. Tune or stock ecm?!?!

calinkaos · 09-28-2012, 10:52 AM

I don't wanna bash on the company. Not my style. But I'm concerned that I wasn't told about this and it not effecting me almost two years later. I understand preserving ur business but it was never mentioned or agreed on, if it was I would of gone with a different tuning.

calinkaos · 09-28-2012, 10:53 AM

I was tuning back ti stock so I could get my vehicle working properly and get a new tune system. But they locked gm out also.

SSOOCH · 09-28-2012, 10:57 AM

What did they use to tune it? HP Tuners?

calinkaos · 09-28-2012, 10:57 AM

Efi live

strych9 · 09-28-2012, 11:01 AM

What is their reason for not removing the lock for you? I guess I could see a tuner keeping his tune secure, but if you want to flash back to factory (which I am assuming, since you are having GM flash it), I wouldn't see that as a problem.

If you lost the suit, it may cost you more than a new ECM from GM. Something to consider.

pyr0b0y · 09-28-2012, 11:07 AM

Have you tried asking them to remove it? You should have it in writing that they won't remove it before thinking about going to court. They have no reason why not to unlock it, and yes I understand where youre coming from about doing it in the first place. Same thing happened to me, but I got them to unlock it.

hapisok · 09-28-2012, 11:08 AM

have you tried contacting the tuner or tune shop to resolve the issue? have they said they absolutely will NOT remove the lock? have the gone out of business? moved?

calinkaos · 09-28-2012, 11:12 AM

That's my concern. If they go out of business or lose the password to unlock... not sure if it's an individual password. I contacted them... they asked for compensation to perform another tune. Kinda bogus if u ask me.

pyr0b0y · 09-28-2012, 11:16 AM

If you can show on paper (via a letter) that they are refusing to take the lock off, that should stand up well in court. You need to show the judge you have tried to resolve the issue personally, but they refuse to work with you, and that's why you felt you bedded to go to court.

The Stig · 09-28-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by calinkaos

That's my concern. If they go out of business or lose the password to unlock... not sure if it's an individual password. I contacted them... they asked for compensation to perform another tune. Kinda bogus if u ask me.

Right, but that's for another tune. If you just want them to put the stock tune back I'm sure they won't have a problem with that.

Russell James · 09-28-2012, 12:47 PM

A class action lawsuit because your your tune is locked?

Sounds a bit extreme.

Paying them to do whatever they need to do, might be a touch cheaper than the legalities of a lawsuit.

The best outcome of a class suit is fractions of pennies on the dollar, only the lawyers get rich.

I just got a settlement from the Enron class suit. Long story short..... had some stock from an estate settlement. About a decade in legal battles, gazzillions spent on lawyers.... My settlement check was $49. I wiped my ass with it and flushed it.

When someone actually defrauds you of a massive amount, bust out the legal team. Just modding your car, bust out the wallet. Speed shops charge for their work.

09-28-2012, 10:45 AM	#1
calinkaos Army EOD Vet Drives: 2010 2SS/RS blk/blk/blk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Centreville, MD Posts: 522	lock ECU grounds for lawsuit So I want your opinion on something fellow C5ers. I got a custom tune and was never told my vehicle would be locked by the tuning program. I have all original records and consent forms. I went to get a GM warranty reflash and the dealership couldn't access the ecu. I am considering filing a class action lawsuit against the company that tuned my car to allow access to my tune files and my ecu. What do you all think? Anyone ever heard of someone trying this? __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Blk/Blk Camaro F1A Procharger

09-28-2012, 10:47 AM	#2
Ject aka Patrick Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS '04 Silverado Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Derby Kansas Posts: 3,072	Who tuned it ? __________________ Current Modifications: Your average Bolt-ons & Suspension Upgrades GForce Engineering: 9" Rear End, Strange Pro Iron Case w/Moser Nodular 3.70:1 Detroit locker, 3.5" Solid Drive Shaft

09-28-2012, 10:52 AM	#4
calinkaos Army EOD Vet Drives: 2010 2SS/RS blk/blk/blk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Centreville, MD Posts: 522	I don't wanna bash on the company. Not my style. But I'm concerned that I wasn't told about this and it not effecting me almost two years later. I understand preserving ur business but it was never mentioned or agreed on, if it was I would of gone with a different tuning. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Blk/Blk Camaro F1A Procharger

09-28-2012, 10:53 AM	#5
calinkaos Army EOD Vet Drives: 2010 2SS/RS blk/blk/blk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Centreville, MD Posts: 522	I was tuning back ti stock so I could get my vehicle working properly and get a new tune system. But they locked gm out also. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Blk/Blk Camaro F1A Procharger

09-28-2012, 10:57 AM	#6
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,358 View My Garage	What did they use to tune it? HP Tuners? __________________

09-28-2012, 10:52 AM	#3
babytiger it's hers... Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: katy, tx Posts: 1,202	GM won't 'warranty flash' your ecm if a tune has been done. It would negate your tune as well. So its one or the other. Tune or stock ecm?!?!

09-28-2012, 10:57 AM	#7
calinkaos Army EOD Vet Drives: 2010 2SS/RS blk/blk/blk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Centreville, MD Posts: 522	Efi live __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Blk/Blk Camaro F1A Procharger

09-28-2012, 11:01 AM	#8
strych9 I'll be back... Drives: Subaru, HD Road Glide Special Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 3,036 View My Garage	What is their reason for not removing the lock for you? I guess I could see a tuner keeping his tune secure, but if you want to flash back to factory (which I am assuming, since you are having GM flash it), I wouldn't see that as a problem. If you lost the suit, it may cost you more than a new ECM from GM. Something to consider. __________________ Bye bye, Bumblebee! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Build Journal My Garage GoPro Mic Hack

09-28-2012, 11:07 AM	#9
pyr0b0y need....more....hp Drives: The Neighbor Hater Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 4,091	Have you tried asking them to remove it? You should have it in writing that they won't remove it before thinking about going to court. They have no reason why not to unlock it, and yes I understand where youre coming from about doing it in the first place. Same thing happened to me, but I got them to unlock it. __________________ BUILD THREAD BUILT AND MAINTAINED BY BLU808 Mast Motorsports Built LS3 Stroker 418, IPS GT35R Twin Turbos, Exedy GTO4XD Twin Disc Clutch, Aeromotive A1000 Eliminator Stealth Fuel Pump, AEM Meth Injection, DSS 1400hp Axels, BC Coilovers, Pfadt & BMR Suspension, Hawk HPS Pads, Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hurst Shifter, Custom Roll Cage by Blu808, T3 Ports, 22" Custom Concave Mesh Rims

09-28-2012, 11:08 AM	#10
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	have you tried contacting the tuner or tune shop to resolve the issue? have they said they absolutely will NOT remove the lock? have the gone out of business? moved? __________________

09-28-2012, 11:12 AM	#11
calinkaos Army EOD Vet Drives: 2010 2SS/RS blk/blk/blk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Centreville, MD Posts: 522	That's my concern. If they go out of business or lose the password to unlock... not sure if it's an individual password. I contacted them... they asked for compensation to perform another tune. Kinda bogus if u ask me. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Blk/Blk Camaro F1A Procharger

09-28-2012, 11:16 AM	#12
pyr0b0y need....more....hp Drives: The Neighbor Hater Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 4,091	If you can show on paper (via a letter) that they are refusing to take the lock off, that should stand up well in court. You need to show the judge you have tried to resolve the issue personally, but they refuse to work with you, and that's why you felt you bedded to go to court. __________________ BUILD THREAD BUILT AND MAINTAINED BY BLU808 Mast Motorsports Built LS3 Stroker 418, IPS GT35R Twin Turbos, Exedy GTO4XD Twin Disc Clutch, Aeromotive A1000 Eliminator Stealth Fuel Pump, AEM Meth Injection, DSS 1400hp Axels, BC Coilovers, Pfadt & BMR Suspension, Hawk HPS Pads, Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hurst Shifter, Custom Roll Cage by Blu808, T3 Ports, 22" Custom Concave Mesh Rims

09-28-2012, 12:47 PM	#14
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	A class action lawsuit because your your tune is locked? Sounds a bit extreme. Paying them to do whatever they need to do, might be a touch cheaper than the legalities of a lawsuit. The best outcome of a class suit is fractions of pennies on the dollar, only the lawyers get rich. I just got a settlement from the Enron class suit. Long story short..... had some stock from an estate settlement. About a decade in legal battles, gazzillions spent on lawyers.... My settlement check was $49. I wiped my ass with it and flushed it. When someone actually defrauds you of a massive amount, bust out the legal team. Just modding your car, bust out the wallet. Speed shops charge for their work.