Let's talk Koons Chevrolet and their 1LE stash.. - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Harga · 02-05-2015, 08:46 PM

So I'm in the market for a 1LE. I definitely want a 2015 with the RS package, NPP, and Recaros. At first I was just planning on spec'ing out my own with all of the options I wanted at a nearby dealership but through searching AutoTrader, I've come across Koon's Chevrolet in NoVa. I've noticed that they consistently have had around 10-20 1LEs in stock at a time and the prices are MUCH better than what I would get if I ordered one brand new (37k vs 42k). This has tempted me into purchasing one from them BUT I've heard some bad things about them from numerous members here. Bad business practices, prices don't line up, etc. Does anyone here have any actual stories of going there recently and being turned off by anything?

Also, as a side note, I've noticed they've had one in particular that's been sitting on the lot since at least October (I've been tracking it weekly like a creep

). Assuming they don't pull a bait and switch with their pricing, would seeing a 1LE sitting on the lot this long scare anyone enough that they would walk away from such a deal?

http://www.koonschevybuickgmc.com/ne...ions=compliant

*The_Blur* · 02-05-2015, 09:07 PM

A lot of dealer cars that don't sell within a couple of months go back up for auction where another dealer picks it up for wholesale. It then sits on another lot until sale by customer or another auction.

Look out for brake rust, bad tires, and other lot rot, and be sure to change the oil. Otherwise, there's not going to be anything wrong with the car.

When negotiating, point out that you know it's been there a while, and they'll level with you. Expect a better deal than average, but be prepared to do a little basic maintenance as soon as you purchase it.

Teghogh · 02-05-2015, 10:52 PM

You are so lucky to be near them. I have used their website as the base price line and showing it to the local dealers in socal and no one seems to be able to match them. I contacted them a month ago but apparently they cant ship any cars to california due to emission laws.
I would say the only thing you have to worry about when financing is to make sure you are getting the base apr without the mark up. Also dont forget to take advantage of an additional 1k conquest

Harga · 02-06-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

A lot of dealer cars that don't sell within a couple of months go back up for auction where another dealer picks it up for wholesale. It then sits on another lot until sale by customer or another auction.

Look out for brake rust, bad tires, and other lot rot, and be sure to change the oil. Otherwise, there's not going to be anything wrong with the car.

When negotiating, point out that you know it's been there a while, and they'll level with you. Expect a better deal than average, but be prepared to do a little basic maintenance as soon as you purchase it.

I'll be able to tell almost immediately upon driving it if the tires have flat spots, right? I'd hope they'd offer to replace them if that was the case. The brakes don't seem to worry me as much since I should just be able to rub the rust off with some moderate braking.

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Originally Posted by Teghogh

You are so lucky to be near them. I have used their website as the base price line and showing it to the local dealers in socal and no one seems to be able to match them. I contacted them a month ago but apparently they cant ship any cars to california due to emission laws.
I would say the only thing you have to worry about when financing is to make sure you are getting the base apr without the mark up. Also dont forget to take advantage of an additional 1k conquest

I'm not too worried about the financing part as I'm planning to get pre-approved from another bank before I even talk to anyone at the dealership.

97tj-neil · 02-06-2015, 11:35 AM

I had my local dealer in PA transfer one from Koons in December. Dealser in VA do not have to include destination charge in their adverized price, but you will pay it, so go ahead and add $900 to what they advertize. There may be other items not included in their advertised price as well. Once all said and done, my dealer was about $1500 above what Koons advertized. That was worth it to me to buy from my local dealer and not have to deal with Koons (just based on comments I have read here, no personal experience).

Gary24 · 02-06-2015, 11:53 AM

My dealer also advertised a much lower "wow" type price on their website only to find out that the lower price is including all possible discounts. Some of these discounts I didn't qualify for.

Zorns · 02-06-2015, 02:09 PM

I've stopped by. They are all 1SS cars, none are 2SS - if that matters in your search and pricing.

FJ60 · 02-06-2015, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Teghogh

I contacted them a month ago but apparently they cant ship any cars to california due to emission laws.

I thought they are all 50 state legal now.

extraurban · 02-06-2015, 06:12 PM

Looks like these ones have the NE1 RPO meaning:

NE1 Emissions, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington state requirements

The others seem to be different:

NB8 Emissions override, California
NB9 Emissions override, state-specific
NC7 Emissions override, Federal

Also, price isn't very good, even with exchange rate, I ordered mine for less, with sunroof, including all of our our wonderful federal/provincial excises.

Front Runner · 02-06-2015, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary24

My dealer also advertised a much lower "wow" type price on their website only to find out that the lower price is including all possible discounts. Some of these discounts I didn't qualify for.

That's what Koons does....

USMUCL · 02-06-2015, 08:34 PM

This is interesting. When I was looking for a 2014 back in July, I ended up having to drive 4 hours to get one. Few had 1LEs (more less 2014 models), and those that did refused to transfer them to another dealer.

Harga · 02-06-2015, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary24

My dealer also advertised a much lower "wow" type price on their website only to find out that the lower price is including all possible discounts. Some of these discounts I didn't qualify for.

That's what I was originally thinking when I saw their low prices. Not really a "bad" business practice as I've seen some say around these forums, just something that fools people who don't deeply research something.

Sounds like I should just call and find out what all rebates and offers are included in their price and go from there. Their website doesn't really give a rundown, unless I've missed something.

Harga · 02-06-2015, 09:16 PM

For what it's worth, when I hear someone say bad business practice, I think of something like negotiating with a dealer and agreeing on a final price, then when time comes to sign the paperwork, that number magically changes...

FJ60 · 02-06-2015, 11:32 PM

How did this dealer accumulate so many 1LEs? Not even the largest volume dealer in Northern CA near me has close to that many.

02-05-2015, 08:46 PM	#1
Harga Drives: 2013 Victory Red ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: DC Posts: 18	Let's talk Koons Chevrolet and their 1LE stash.. So I'm in the market for a 1LE. I definitely want a 2015 with the RS package, NPP, and Recaros. At first I was just planning on spec'ing out my own with all of the options I wanted at a nearby dealership but through searching AutoTrader, I've come across Koon's Chevrolet in NoVa. I've noticed that they consistently have had around 10-20 1LEs in stock at a time and the prices are MUCH better than what I would get if I ordered one brand new (37k vs 42k). This has tempted me into purchasing one from them BUT I've heard some bad things about them from numerous members here. Bad business practices, prices don't line up, etc. Does anyone here have any actual stories of going there recently and being turned off by anything? Also, as a side note, I've noticed they've had one in particular that's been sitting on the lot since at least October (I've been tracking it weekly like a creep ). Assuming they don't pull a bait and switch with their pricing, would seeing a 1LE sitting on the lot this long scare anyone enough that they would walk away from such a deal? http://www.koonschevybuickgmc.com/ne...ions=compliant __________________ '13 ZL1 '99 Z28 - LQ9 swap, A4 to M6 swap, MS3 cam, LS6 intake, LTs into TD w/flowmaster single chambers. 412/392 - Sold

02-05-2015, 09:07 PM	#2
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	A lot of dealer cars that don't sell within a couple of months go back up for auction where another dealer picks it up for wholesale. It then sits on another lot until sale by customer or another auction. Look out for brake rust, bad tires, and other lot rot, and be sure to change the oil. Otherwise, there's not going to be anything wrong with the car. When negotiating, point out that you know it's been there a while, and they'll level with you. Expect a better deal than average, but be prepared to do a little basic maintenance as soon as you purchase it. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

02-06-2015, 11:35 AM	#5
97tj-neil Drives: 2015 BVM 1SS, RS, 1LE Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: PA Posts: 73 View My Garage	I had my local dealer in PA transfer one from Koons in December. Dealser in VA do not have to include destination charge in their adverized price, but you will pay it, so go ahead and add $900 to what they advertize. There may be other items not included in their advertised price as well. Once all said and done, my dealer was about $1500 above what Koons advertized. That was worth it to me to buy from my local dealer and not have to deal with Koons (just based on comments I have read here, no personal experience). __________________ .............2015 1SS/RS/1LE....................2010 Silverado Crew Cab Z71...........1997 Wrangler TJ.........

02-06-2015, 08:34 PM	#11
USMUCL Drives: 2014 Red Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 284	This is interesting. When I was looking for a 2014 back in July, I ended up having to drive 4 hours to get one. Few had 1LEs (more less 2014 models), and those that did refused to transfer them to another dealer. Last edited by USMUCL; 07-20-2015 at 07:11 PM.

02-06-2015, 09:16 PM	#13
Harga Drives: 2013 Victory Red ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: DC Posts: 18	For what it's worth, when I hear someone say bad business practice, I think of something like negotiating with a dealer and agreeing on a final price, then when time comes to sign the paperwork, that number magically changes... __________________ '13 ZL1 '99 Z28 - LQ9 swap, A4 to M6 swap, MS3 cam, LS6 intake, LTs into TD w/flowmaster single chambers. 412/392 - Sold

02-05-2015, 10:52 PM	#3
Teghogh Drives: Vette Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Socal Posts: 77	You are so lucky to be near them. I have used their website as the base price line and showing it to the local dealers in socal and no one seems to be able to match them. I contacted them a month ago but apparently they cant ship any cars to california due to emission laws. I would say the only thing you have to worry about when financing is to make sure you are getting the base apr without the mark up. Also dont forget to take advantage of an additional 1k conquest

02-06-2015, 11:53 AM	#6
Gary24 Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Woodbridge, Va Posts: 246	My dealer also advertised a much lower "wow" type price on their website only to find out that the lower price is including all possible discounts. Some of these discounts I didn't qualify for.

02-06-2015, 02:09 PM	#7
Zorns Drives: ? Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 137	I've stopped by. They are all 1SS cars, none are 2SS - if that matters in your search and pricing.

02-06-2015, 06:12 PM	#9
extraurban Drives: Junker Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: north, eh Posts: 52	Looks like these ones have the NE1 RPO meaning: NE1 Emissions, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington state requirements The others seem to be different: NB8 Emissions override, California NB9 Emissions override, state-specific NC7 Emissions override, Federal Also, price isn't very good, even with exchange rate, I ordered mine for less, with sunroof, including all of our our wonderful federal/provincial excises.

02-06-2015, 11:32 PM	#14
FJ60 Drives: '13 2SS RS 1LE ; '85 Landcruiser Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NorCal Posts: 75	How did this dealer accumulate so many 1LEs? Not even the largest volume dealer in Northern CA near me has close to that many.