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GJG · 01-13-2011, 08:35 PM

i have no idea what i'm talking about.....but....i think it would be ok.....

PQ · 01-13-2011, 08:37 PM

Ok. Taking a break to update. I see Chris has been. My fingers are frozen.

Checked my splices in the wires. Not it.

Plugged the boost guage barb. Not it.

Checked the collant levels. Haven't lost a single drop.

MAF sensor is correct.

All hoses are correct.

Everything is plugged in, zipped up, nailed down, etc..............

I'm stumped.

Fuel pressure would idle the car at least. So I don't think it's that.

Maybe the tune just isn't liking my headers and exhaust and CAI???

I inspected the gaskets thouroughly and torqued everything down to spec.

So what are we down to? Tune?

PQ · 01-13-2011, 08:39 PM

Loading stock tune............

*GTAHVIT* · 01-13-2011, 08:40 PM

I still think we need to put a FP guage on it...

just in case...

BlownSS · 01-13-2011, 08:40 PM

Does he have a way to watch the afr? I would not drive it without the correct tune in it. Is there a way for magnuson to verify that you have the correct tune?

*GTAHVIT* · 01-13-2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlownSS

Does he have a way to watch the afr? I would not drive it without the correct tune in it. Is there a way for magnuson to verify that you have the correct tune?

Randy emailed the tune to Maggie and they said it was the right one....

But who knows at this point.... when he revs the motor a bit like to 1200 rpms it seems to run fine but still a bit smoky...

At idle it sounds like it's trying to die. and smoky

GJG · 01-13-2011, 08:47 PM

could the ecm have "learned" the open boost port? sort of like when the ecm throws a code for an untightened gas cap....it takes 3 0r 4 start cycles to clear it....or like the low octane learning curve????

PQ · 01-13-2011, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

I still think we need to put a FP guage on it...

just in case...

I'll have to do it tomorrow. Too late now. I gotta get a stem and a gauge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlownSS

Does he have a way to watch the afr? I would not drive it without the correct tune in it. Is there a way for magnuson to verify that you have the correct tune?

I'm just gonna start it and let it idle. Just to see if there is any change. Not sure why. Honestly, the tune on it now I wouldn't feel comfortable driving on.

*GTAHVIT* · 01-13-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

I'll have to do it tomorrow. Too late now. I gotta get a stem and a gauge.

I'm just gonna start it and let it idle. Just to see if there is any change. Not sure why. Honestly, the tune on it now I wouldn't feel comfortable driving on.

Tim also says it's fine to start. but don't make any boost.

yeah I'm with ya on the FP... I'd just like to rule that out at some point.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 01-13-2011, 08:50 PM

Dos any one have the install paper work? to post.

2010 SS RS · 01-13-2011, 08:50 PM

Are you running an oil catch can and crankcase vent? or did you forget to hook up the crankcase air intake from your CAI back up to the Passenger side just above the oil filler cap? If you are running a Crank Vent you must cap the line from the CAI to the passenger side and only use the vent.
Then it is not uncommon to have more air than maf told computer you were getting. When the o2 sensors realize the difference it adjust the fuel at idle to compensate. I actually could not keep mine running in this situation. ended up adding 18 percent more fuel at Idle to balance everything out. The computer is going to adjust to best stoich burn. All this happened before long and short trims even kicked in. Idle would be all over the place at start up and if it finally kept running if i gave it a little stab it would want to stall out. Pretty easy fix but you will need it on a tuner.

GJG · 01-13-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

Dos any one have the install paper work? to post.

the install instructions are at Magncharger.com.....hang on i'll post a link

Here

*GTAHVIT* · 01-13-2011, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Are you running an oil catch can and crankcase vent? or did you forget to hook up the crankcase air intake from your CAI back up to the Passenger side just above the oil filler cap? If you are running a Crank Vent you must cap the line from the CAI to the passenger side and only use the vent.
Then it is not uncommon to have more air than maf told computer you were getting. When the o2 sensors realize the difference it adjust the fuel at idle to compensate. I actually could not keep mine running in this situation. ended up adding 18 percent more fuel at Idle to balance everything out. The computer is going to adjust to best stoich burn. All this happened before long and short trims even kicked in. Idle would be all over the place at start up and if it finally kept running if i gave it a little stab it would want to stall out. Pretty easy fix but you will need it on a tuner.

We've went over it multiple time ... based on the pics I've seen (not that I'm an expert) he's got it right. No catch can or breather...

Which brings us back to tune...

2010 SS RS · 01-13-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

We've went over it multiple time ... based on the pics I've seen (not that I'm an expert) he's got it right. No catch can or breather...

Which brings us back to tune...

Hmmmmmm. Yeah its got to be in the tune somewhere. But I would really hesitate going back to stock tune as it would be way off on fuel settings. what tune does he have in it now?

01-13-2011, 08:35 PM	#645
GJG Drives: 2SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaumont, Tx Posts: 871 View My Garage	i have no idea what i'm talking about.....but....i think it would be ok..... __________________ Sleep well America.....my MARINE has your back......

01-13-2011, 08:37 PM	#646
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Ok. Taking a break to update. I see Chris has been. My fingers are frozen. Checked my splices in the wires. Not it. Plugged the boost guage barb. Not it. Checked the collant levels. Haven't lost a single drop. MAF sensor is correct. All hoses are correct. Everything is plugged in, zipped up, nailed down, etc.............. I'm stumped. Fuel pressure would idle the car at least. So I don't think it's that. Maybe the tune just isn't liking my headers and exhaust and CAI??? I inspected the gaskets thouroughly and torqued everything down to spec. So what are we down to? Tune? __________________

01-13-2011, 08:39 PM	#647
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Loading stock tune............ __________________

01-13-2011, 08:40 PM	#648
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	I still think we need to put a FP guage on it... just in case... __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

01-13-2011, 08:40 PM	#649
BlownSS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lincoln Nebraska Posts: 1,754	Does he have a way to watch the afr? I would not drive it without the correct tune in it. Is there a way for magnuson to verify that you have the correct tune? __________________ 2010 IOM SS/RS LS3, Hennessey HPE550 Polished Magnuson TVS2300 Supercharger. 3.4 Pulley. Kooks long tube headers / high flow cats. GHL Full exhaust. ZL1 Fuel Pump/ADM FPCM. MSW Bap. JRE ZL1 Race cam with new springs/pushrods/Trunion Upgrade. FIC 850cc injectors. ZR1 Map sensor. CAI Induction. JRE Tune.

01-13-2011, 08:47 PM	#651
GJG Drives: 2SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaumont, Tx Posts: 871 View My Garage	could the ecm have "learned" the open boost port? sort of like when the ecm throws a code for an untightened gas cap....it takes 3 0r 4 start cycles to clear it....or like the low octane learning curve???? __________________ Sleep well America.....my MARINE has your back......

01-13-2011, 08:50 PM	#654
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Dos any one have the install paper work? to post.

01-13-2011, 08:50 PM	#655
2010 SS RS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM Black Polished Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,108	Are you running an oil catch can and crankcase vent? or did you forget to hook up the crankcase air intake from your CAI back up to the Passenger side just above the oil filler cap? If you are running a Crank Vent you must cap the line from the CAI to the passenger side and only use the vent. Then it is not uncommon to have more air than maf told computer you were getting. When the o2 sensors realize the difference it adjust the fuel at idle to compensate. I actually could not keep mine running in this situation. ended up adding 18 percent more fuel at Idle to balance everything out. The computer is going to adjust to best stoich burn. All this happened before long and short trims even kicked in. Idle would be all over the place at start up and if it finally kept running if i gave it a little stab it would want to stall out. Pretty easy fix but you will need it on a tuner. __________________ 418 Stroker, 621RWHP 648 lbs TORQUE Built by Laramie GM Auto Center Tuned by Nick at Mac Autosport. EForce SC, 2 3/4pulley,LPE dual fuel pump, JRE Twin fuel rail upgrade, posi clutch kit, RX oilcatch can and breather, Callies Compstar crankshaft and rods, Racing bearings, CP -13.8 race pistons, steel rings, Comp Cams X6 blower cam, Springs, HD timing chain and tensioner, Doug Thorley Tri Y LT headers, 89.7lb injectors, RPM rollbar, DSS1400 shafts, Simpson 5 pt harness, BMR Toe rods and trailing arms, led lights, RPM input and output shafts

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