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Old 08-08-2010, 12:30 PM   #295
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Old 08-08-2010, 02:58 PM   #296
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You cant just look at average hp & tq from 2500 - 7000rpm. You have to look at the usable average hp & tq. When you go WOT your car goes from 2500rpm to 4000rpm in the first 1-2 seconds. After that it stays above 4000rpm. The average you need to look at is from 4000rpm to 7000rpm. Its like a cam you give up some hp down low to produce more up top.
i agree with this..........for those that drive in the 2500 rpm range why even bother with any of these setups. the reason most of us would bother is to get the least expensive way to get some extra power when we put our foot into the floorboards. i'm sure at the lower rpm's all of these would add a minimal amount of better fuel mileage, probably not enough to pay for the upgrade though. personally for me i would be looking at the power added in the higher rpm range..........same thing as putting a supercharger in....you do it for the power when you put your foot in it.
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:52 AM   #297
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:10 AM   #298
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Thanks. Well I did gain back some hp/tq with the timing corrections to help with the AFR. Now, this is where it becomes interesting. The fuel I was running was 93oct w/ 10% or so ethanol. After Vince made those timing corrections my spark retard went from 10-12* @ full rpm to just shy of 5*. So if we go by the est 2-3hp per * of timing that is close to 14-21hp gained back. Also my headers are a 2.5" outlet with hi-flow cats going to the stock 2.25" exhaust and I have added the resonated x-pipe. The future goal is to open the whole system to 2.5" like Blade did. Hopefully, not sure if I'm right or not, but by opening it, I would think it would gain some more hp for a better flowing exhaust.
I stop checking this thread for a week and SummtWheels is riling up a storm and Mrray is talkin about acts of God

And Devildoc is talking up my system LMFAO!.......gotta love these threads.

Doc you are right, going to 2.5 will maximize the most out of your engine, any bigger and it won't help much. I think the V8 guys are going to 3" and staying there, so that should give us some ideas on what could happen. At 2.5" we still have enough back pressure IMHO and the shop that did work on my installation, agreed the same and I trust their judgement based on their experience.

Also, Vince had to redo my fuel trims and timings after adding the Injen, and the car was even more livelier. I also then installed the TCM tune with the the Torque Management reduced and the car was rocking and rolling

I wish I could make it to a track in the last month or so, but its so hot and humid here in the Carolinas, I just have no motivation to go. Hopefully in the fall, I will head down.

I am going to Atco, NJ on Black Friday with 67 GTO so that should be fun
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:56 AM   #299
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what's the fuel trim? I am a bit new to this; is the higher fuel trim with the CAI good or bad?
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:03 AM   #300
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what's the fuel trim? I am a bit new to this; is the higher fuel trim with the CAI good or bad?
I'm also concerned about this. I think I would choose the C.A.I. but 14% is quite a bit different from all the others. I'm not an expert on this topic, but looking at the data, the CAI's fuel trims stand out.
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Old 08-09-2010, 06:39 PM   #301
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i agree with this..........for those that drive in the 2500 rpm range why even bother with any of these setups. the reason most of us would bother is to get the least expensive way to get some extra power when we put our foot into the floorboards. i'm sure at the lower rpm's all of these would add a minimal amount of better fuel mileage, probably not enough to pay for the upgrade though. personally for me i would be looking at the power added in the higher rpm range..........same thing as putting a supercharger in....you do it for the power when you put your foot in it.
I don't agree. You are saying that performance only matters when you go WOT. As this is my daily driver, I am almost never WOT. When I need to jet past another car, or just accelerating from a stop light, I am often in the 2-4K rpm range. One of the worst things about a small displacement engine is the lack of low end power. I don't want to floor it just to get it to be quick. What's great about a V8 is that you don't have to flog it to get power out of it. I think a lot of people are looking to get a little more low-end out of the V6.
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Old 08-09-2010, 06:43 PM   #302
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I don't agree. You are saying that performance only matters when you go WOT. As this is my daily driver, I am almost never WOT. When I need to jet past another car, or just accelerating from a stop light, I am often in the 2-4K rpm range. One of the worst things about a small displacement engine is the lack of low end power. I don't want to floor it just to get it to be quick. What's great about a V8 is that you don't have to flog it to get power out of it. I think a lot of people are looking to get a little more low-end out of the V6.
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Not shure if this is a dumb question but did JRE test the AirAid V1 or V2 ?
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I'm trying to keep up, but I don't think I saw an answer to the earlier question about fuel trim. Honestly, I have no idea what that is or what impact it should have overall on my decision! Can someone clarify, in layman's terms please?!
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