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Old 05-13-2013, 01:15 PM   #15
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Just don't want to see a simple mistake made which could cost you your motor.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:56 PM   #16
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Just don't want to see a simple mistake made which could cost you your motor.
Completely understandable. Im taking all input seriously. Going to make a few calls to confirm that Im on the same page with the shop and go from there. If it needs fuel, than thats all there is to it.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:57 PM   #17
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Same here. Stock pump with bap could not keep up on my car with just a whipple headers and CAI. Went to ZL1 pump and ADM FPCM
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:01 PM   #18
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Was just told that the BAP, ID1000's w/meth with be good for 750.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:12 PM   #19
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Was just told that the BAP, ID1000's w/meth with be good for 750.
We've actually gone over 800rwhp while I was at ECS with this setup, however, without adding a proper fuel pump they are backed down off of that hero pass number.

750rwhp with dual alky not a problem for that setup. My personal car we ran to 647rwhp with just the BAP, no alky.
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We've actually gone over 800rwhp while I was at ECS with this setup, however, without adding a proper fuel pump they are backed down off of that hero pass number.

750rwhp with dual alky not a problem for that setup. My personal car we ran to 647rwhp with just the BAP, no alky.
Thanks for the clarification, Matt. Much appreciated.
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We've actually gone over 800rwhp while I was at ECS with this setup, however, without adding a proper fuel pump they are backed down off of that hero pass number.

750rwhp with dual alky not a problem for that setup. My personal car we ran to 647rwhp with just the BAP, no alky.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:26 AM   #22
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:38 AM   #23
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no reason to spray 100hp worth of meth. get a real fuel pump
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:45 PM   #25
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Where do you think the last 100hp is coming from? Methanol is a fuel, just like gasoline. If your pump is only capable of pushing 650, where is that last 100 coming from? Your meth kit.

Meth used as a cooling agent/bandaid is great. Meth sprayed as a primary fuel source into a nozzle is not. What do you think those kits use to plumb the meth?

Ding ding ding: they use garden irrigation equipment. The pumps, the fittings, the lines... have you been through your garden section at home depot lately? does it look familiar?

Do you really want garden equipment and a single or two GARDEN nozzles in charge of proper cylinder distribution of a liquid sprayed in a split runner manifold? Because it sure isn't going to be proper.

Cooling your intake charge is one thing, making up for fuel pump inadequacy is adding an unknown to the equation. If a part fails (not uncommon), your engine is gone. It's not a matter of it running leaner, or hotter, like when meth is used to cool on top of a relatively safe AFR, but simply a matter of the fuel not being there, and bad shit happening.


Cliff notes: Run a real fuel pump.
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Where do you think the last 100hp is coming from? Methanol is a fuel, just like gasoline. If your pump is only capable of pushing 650, where is that last 100 coming from? Your meth kit.

Meth used as a cooling agent/bandaid is great. Meth sprayed as a primary fuel source into a nozzle is not. What do you think those kits use to plumb the meth?

Ding ding ding: they use garden irrigation equipment. The pumps, the fittings, the lines... have you been through your garden section at home depot lately? does it look familiar?

Do you really want garden equipment and a single or two GARDEN nozzles in charge of proper cylinder distribution of a liquid sprayed in a split runner manifold? Because it sure isn't going to be proper.

Cooling your intake charge is one thing, making up for fuel pump inadequacy is adding an unknown to the equation. If a part fails (not uncommon), your engine is gone. It's not a matter of it running leaner, or hotter, like when meth is used to cool on top of a relatively safe AFR, but simply a matter of the fuel not being there, and bad shit happening.


Cliff notes: Run a real fuel pump.
I actually bought all my fittings and hose for the meth kit at Lowes.
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