Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Roto-Fab
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-21-2010, 04:52 PM   #15
caverman


 
caverman's Avatar
 
Drives: '69 SS Convertible
Join Date: May 2009
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 7,111
Quote:
Originally Posted by acuraelin View Post
Thanks suprabad, i saw your video and it soudns nice, that's the system i want!!


Thanks everyone for the inisght, 3in it is!! I knew I can count on y'alls opinion
Here is the Magnaflow #16483 with LTs. This is the setup I have and I love hearing it start up and then settle down into a nice deep rumble.

__________________
-2010 Camaro 2SS | M6 | VR w/White Stripes | 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow | LPE 3.91 gears | ADM tuned | Halltech w/ADM Scoop | Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod | BC Coilovers| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars | Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings | VMax TB | Morimoto Projectors | MGW shifter | Red Calipers
Build Journal
caverman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2010, 05:38 PM   #16
usmcjlp

 
Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 755
I just received the kooks 3 inch cat-back exhaust. I currently have kooks headers with a stock cat-back on a force induction setup. I am currently at 660 rwhp. I was told the stock exhaust had become a restriction and that the swap would lower my boost allowing me to run a smaller pulley.

Exhaust will be installed tomorrow and dynoed. I will post results. I will see if the money I spent gets me anything or not.
usmcjlp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2010, 06:28 PM   #17
SSOOCH
Camaro SL,UTs
 
SSOOCH's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Jordan, UT
Posts: 7,358
Here is my video. Keep in mind the really agressive CAM you hear at the beginning of the video is obviously not my Camaro. It's JDP Motorsports Chevelle. But when I start my burnout you get the idea of what the #16483 sounds like launching at around 4500RPM.

__________________
SSOOCH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2010, 06:38 PM   #18
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Bone Stock LS3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Marion Tx
Posts: 15,476
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Ssooch, I love the sound... Can't wait to decide which way I'm going... Still leaning hard to the TT setup...

Oh, and don't pick any fights with that grocery getter... that thing sounds bad...
__________________
If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley

Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall.
Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

“If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti

If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2010, 06:40 PM   #19
SSOOCH
Camaro SL,UTs
 
SSOOCH's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Jordan, UT
Posts: 7,358
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS View Post
Ssooch, I love the sound... Can't wait to decide which way I'm going... Still leaning hard to the TT setup...

Oh, and don't pick any fights with that grocery getter... that thing sounds bad...
Thanks.

Oh Don's Chevelle runs like a raped ape! It's got a 383 Stroker and it's blown! I'd love to meet him out at Rocky Mountain Raceway and run a 1/4 mile against him just for ****s and giggles but yeah it's the ultimate sleeper!!
__________________
SSOOCH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 01:15 AM   #20
ackeight

 
ackeight's Avatar
 
Drives: 10' 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Rockwall, TX
Posts: 1,389
Guys running headers and the 3" system, do the cats narrow down to the 2.5" and your 3" catback hooks up to that just like to the stock cats? Obviously this is if you are running cats.
ackeight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 01:30 AM   #21
Merc
In The Circle
 
Merc's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Abbotsford BC Canada
Posts: 11,291
3"
Merc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 01:50 AM   #22
Ivan @ Southwest Speed
 
Drives: '15 Z06, '01 NBM SS, '97 SS
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
Posts: 12,170
650+ hp.... = 3"

Otherwise, eh.

But it's nice to have options for later down the line.

Either way, Southwest Speed will save you money on your decision!

Call or PM us for a quote!
Ivan
Ivan @ Southwest Speed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 02:09 AM   #23
jdenotter

 
jdenotter's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS,M6,Black w/CGM Stripes
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nashville, NC
Posts: 1,778
3in RDP Motorsports cat-back...great sound and price

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
__________________

3" RDP Motorsports aggressive cat-back exhaust w/ x-pipe, Vararam CAI, Hurst's short throw shifter, Gary's Customs painted bowties, Ofer's HID DRL/Fog Light wiring harness, Kelvin 8K HID DRL bulbs, ZL1 grille. Johnson's window tint film, LSR lowering springs, Metra dash kit with Pioneer In-Dash DVD head unit.
jdenotter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 02:23 AM   #24
usmcjlp

 
Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 755
Quote:
Originally Posted by ackeight View Post
Guys running headers and the 3" system, do the cats narrow down to the 2.5" and your 3" catback hooks up to that just like to the stock cats? Obviously this is if you are running cats.
I am running cats. As I understand it, after speaking with Brandon at Maryland speed who sells all of these systems, is that the kooks 3 inch is the only system that has true 3 inch cats as well. The other cat-back systems all neck down to 2.5 to meet the factory system.
usmcjlp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 08:20 AM   #25
caverman


 
caverman's Avatar
 
Drives: '69 SS Convertible
Join Date: May 2009
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 7,111
Quote:
Originally Posted by usmcjlp View Post
I am running cats. As I understand it, after speaking with Brandon at Maryland speed who sells all of these systems, is that the kooks 3 inch is the only system that has true 3 inch cats as well. The other cat-back systems all neck down to 2.5 to meet the factory system.
First off KOOKS isn't the ONLY one. LG is 3" all the way and Texas Speed is 3" all the way.

This is only if you buy the complete system (headers, connection pipe, cat-back). Otherwise if you buy just the KOOK headers they are going to come with a connection pipe that has a 3" inlet and 2.5" outlet so that you can connect it up to either your factory cat-back or cat-backs that can hook into your factory mid-pipes.

A lot of 3" cat-backs have a 2.5" inlet and are technically not a true 3". Magnaflow and MBRP are a couple examples of that.

Again...remember that unless you're making big power (like 600+) the 2.5" should be fine. Anything below that the 3" is really going to be more for sound than performance.
__________________
-2010 Camaro 2SS | M6 | VR w/White Stripes | 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow | LPE 3.91 gears | ADM tuned | Halltech w/ADM Scoop | Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod | BC Coilovers| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars | Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings | VMax TB | Morimoto Projectors | MGW shifter | Red Calipers
Build Journal
caverman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 05:31 PM   #26
Mindz
E.B.A.H.
 
Mindz's Avatar
 
Drives: you wild...
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself...
Posts: 18,421
Can anyone give me proof (tangible proof like dyno sheets) that 3" is greater than 2.5" for 550+ wheel hp? I'm trying to figure out what system to get for myself, but I'm a scientific kind of person who likes hard evidence.
__________________
Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1
Mindz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 05:38 PM   #27
Tallboy
Say "when"...
 
Tallboy's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 2LT
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Venice, FL
Posts: 431
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindz View Post
Can anyone give me proof (tangible proof like dyno sheets) that 3" is greater than 2.5" for 550+ wheel hp? I'm trying to figure out what system to get for myself, but I'm a scientific kind of person who likes hard evidence.
No, they can't. I stayed away from this thread because of the mass amount of mis-information on this subject. I know an exhaust engineer who worked for an OEM, and now on his own. 1/2 inch of diameter per 100 HP is more than adequate.

Now, you're gonna get guys who will say "I gained 10 HP on the dyno from such-and such". Here's the thing: Dyno pulls are rarely reliable on small incrementals in horsepower. Go ahead and dyno your car. Now, let it sit there for a few hours and run it again. The numbers will be different. Every time.

Unless you're going balls-out all the time with well over 600HP, 2.5 is fine. It's not about pipe diameter or volume, it's about flow and balance.

Flame suit on.
Tallboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 09:37 PM   #28
Mindz
E.B.A.H.
 
Mindz's Avatar
 
Drives: you wild...
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself...
Posts: 18,421
I'm with you on this tallboy. I was wondering if there was something like 30 hp difference running the same setup with a 2.5" vs. a 3.0". If it's like 10hp difference, it behooves me to go with a 2.5" since it's cheaper.
__________________
Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1
Mindz is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.