Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Vararam
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-29-2014, 04:31 PM   #1
Camaro10ss1
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 267
Borla Atak or Flowmaster Outlaw

I'm trying to decide between the two exhaust setups to make my car louder. I am currently running lt headers with no cats and flowmaster super 40s. I'm looking for a axel back since I already have a 3" exhaust setup.
Camaro10ss1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2014, 05:11 PM   #2
SteelCamaro
 
Drives: 2012 2SS LS3
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: The Garage
Posts: 561
The Outlaw is a bit lower pitched and less raspy. If that's what you want, then go with that.
SteelCamaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2014, 06:29 PM   #3
Camaro10ss1
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 267
I'd definitely want to go with the less raspy system since I'm not running cats. I was thinking if I go with the outlaw system I could probably just buy the mufflers and just cut off my 40s and weld up the outlaw mufflers.
Camaro10ss1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 10:00 AM   #4
Taco Time

 
Taco Time's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 1SS
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Angleton, TX
Posts: 1,339
You'll find guys who swear by both of these. I like my Outlaws better than the Borlas. (I like the price better too.) There's lots of guys with either of these setups in Houston, myself included. I'd listen to both and then make your choice. (in person. YouTube videos don't do exhaust systems any justice.)

You can PM Matt@Flowmaster about your idea on just swapping the mufflers. I know the Outlaws and American Thunders are interchangeable (Per Matt) but I don't know about the 40s. If you want to listen to my car just let me know.
__________________
Taco's 2014 SS
Mods: 417 Stroker | CAI | Bo's PTB | Kooks LTs | Flowmaster Outlaw Catback | Night Fury Cam | Powerbond UDP | Apex Catch Can |PRC Ported Heads |FAST 102 Intake |Suspension Crap|
Built by J-Rod.
Taco Time is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 01:15 PM   #5
Camaro10ss1
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 267
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco Time View Post
You'll find guys who swear by both of these. I like my Outlaws better than the Borlas. (I like the price better too.) There's lots of guys with either of these setups in Houston, myself included. I'd listen to both and then make your choice. (in person. YouTube videos don't do exhaust systems any justice.)

You can PM Matt@Flowmaster about your idea on just swapping the mufflers. I know the Outlaws and American Thunders are interchangeable (Per Matt) but I don't know about the 40s. If you want to listen to my car just let me know.

Thanks for the info I appreciate that. I have been leaning more toward the flowmasters honestly because of the price. Ill pm Matt and see what he says. Also I'll pm you when I have some time to hear your car
Camaro10ss1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 01:24 PM   #6
keving2873
 
keving2873's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Bremerton, WA
Posts: 701
Gotta chime in for the Borla. When i was running just the ATAK system before headers cam or anything else, holy crap what a noise difference. It is a bit higher pitch than the flowmasters, but in my opinion it sounds amazing. If really loud is what you are looking for the ATAK will do it just fine. I tend to think of it as a new age muscle sound more than the old school muscle sound. You still get the feeling of old school with it, but you also get a new muscle sound with it as well.

The key here is that the sound is all opinion based. What some call raspy, other's don't. Some like the tone of one while other's like a different tone. In the end it all comes down to which one you like the most. Just had to chime in for the Borla setup though...
__________________
2023 Black ZL1 **Awaiting Allocation**
476whp 455trq / Tuned by Tom Wong
CAI Intake with ADM Scoop, Borla ATAK cat-back, ARH 1 7/8 Headers and HF Cats
Custom Comp Cam 231/234 114LSA 617/598 lift, Katech timing chain
Apex Catch-can
VMAX Ported Throttle Body
20" Niche Essen's wrapped in Michelin PSS 315/295
keving2873 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 06:11 PM   #7
Camaro10ss1
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 267
Quote:
Originally Posted by keving2873 View Post
Gotta chime in for the Borla. When i was running just the ATAK system before headers cam or anything else, holy crap what a noise difference. It is a bit higher pitch than the flowmasters, but in my opinion it sounds amazing. If really loud is what you are looking for the ATAK will do it just fine. I tend to think of it as a new age muscle sound more than the old school muscle sound. You still get the feeling of old school with it, but you also get a new muscle sound with it as well.

The key here is that the sound is all opinion based. What some call raspy, other's don't. Some like the tone of one while other's like a different tone. In the end it all comes down to which one you like the most. Just had to chime in for the Borla setup though...

Thanks for sharing. I agree it does all come down to personal preference. I use to have a ls1 car that also was cattless with lt and dumped exhaust no mufflers, and I loved the way it sounded. It was a little raspy but with the cam the car definitely sounded like it meant business. Do you happen to have any videos of your car idling?
Camaro10ss1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2014, 11:53 AM   #8
Camaro10ss1
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 267
Also kinda sucks the atak is a 2.5" system and I already have 3" piping on the car.
Camaro10ss1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2014, 01:07 AM   #9
keving2873
 
keving2873's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Bremerton, WA
Posts: 701
I have a couple video's of it here. I have meant to do more but I haven't made the time for it.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMB...qZO2tWTAL7k7zQ
__________________
2023 Black ZL1 **Awaiting Allocation**
476whp 455trq / Tuned by Tom Wong
CAI Intake with ADM Scoop, Borla ATAK cat-back, ARH 1 7/8 Headers and HF Cats
Custom Comp Cam 231/234 114LSA 617/598 lift, Katech timing chain
Apex Catch-can
VMAX Ported Throttle Body
20" Niche Essen's wrapped in Michelin PSS 315/295
keving2873 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2014, 06:53 PM   #10
Camaro10ss1
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 267
Quote:
Originally Posted by keving2873 View Post
I have a couple video's of it here. I have meant to do more but I haven't made the time for it.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMB...qZO2tWTAL7k7zQ
Sounds really good!
Camaro10ss1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2014, 07:15 PM   #11
WS580
wseditions
 
WS580's Avatar
 
Drives: 12callaway14Siliverado14RXFsport
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: CT
Posts: 96
Atak is sick I hav it on my car Lt no cats cam SC very loud...good luck
WS580 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2014, 08:21 PM   #12
mvrwdakingtm
 
Drives: bmw
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: cc
Posts: 7
I like my Outlaws better than the Borlas.
mvrwdakingtm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2014, 08:24 PM   #13
Camaro10ss1
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 267
Quote:
Originally Posted by WS580 View Post
Atak is sick I hav it on my car Lt no cats cam SC very loud...good luck
I bet. I can't wait to get a cam.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mvrwdakingtm View Post
I like my Outlaws better than the Borlas.
Any reason in particular?
Camaro10ss1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2014, 04:03 PM   #14
keving2873
 
keving2873's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Bremerton, WA
Posts: 701
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camaro10ss1 View Post
Sounds really good!
Thanks. Video's were taken with an iPhone so it still isn't truly what it sounds like in person, but pretty close I think. You don't get the feeling in your chest like you would in person.
__________________
2023 Black ZL1 **Awaiting Allocation**
476whp 455trq / Tuned by Tom Wong
CAI Intake with ADM Scoop, Borla ATAK cat-back, ARH 1 7/8 Headers and HF Cats
Custom Comp Cam 231/234 114LSA 617/598 lift, Katech timing chain
Apex Catch-can
VMAX Ported Throttle Body
20" Niche Essen's wrapped in Michelin PSS 315/295
keving2873 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.