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Barton Industries · 11-29-2009, 07:12 PM

PM sent

tom692010 · 11-30-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 55Designs

How much is this unit and how does it compare to my Noisy Hurst and the MGW?

Ah another unhappy hurst buyer! Mines coming out this week and Baton's going in. Mine wasn't a noise issue. I have other dislikes about it. Hope this one's different. Maybe with the adjustable height I won't have the same issues. Don't want to go into the Hurst issue, Got introuble the last time I did.

Alfieboy · 11-30-2009, 06:44 PM

Man..I just got mine..

Its raining hard.. and gonna need a nice day to install..but quality of pieces is awesome in this kit!

Barton Industries · 11-30-2009, 07:23 PM

Alfieboy- Thanks!

MORE SHIFTERS COMING Dec 14th

Barton Industries · 12-01-2009, 05:08 PM

Still have a couple left from the first run

tom692010 · 12-01-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barton Industries

Still have a couple left from the first run

Can you answer me this? Where is the short throw coming from. The hurst had me confused but with yours and the stock side by side yours measures out longer than the stock shifter.And from the position of the bearing it's going to be shoved up more into the hole than the stock. This leaves the shifter even higher than the stock. No don't get me wrong,I don't doubt it will be short throws but I don't understand the engineering.And yes I did have the saft threaded all the way in.

Barton Industries · 12-01-2009, 09:08 PM

Here is an example that might help. Squezee a pencil right in the middle of the pencil with you left thumb and index finger, Move the top of the pencil with you right hand and you will notice if you move the top of the pencil in any direction, the bottom of the pencil will move the same distance but in the opposite direction. Now do the same thing but move your left thumb and index finger up the pencil. You will notice that when you move the top of the pencil, the bottom will move alot further then what you moved the top.
By placing the spherical bearing further up the shaft it accomplishes the same principal. I think your looking at the over all length instead of the length from the point of rotation. Compare our shifter to the factory one and you will notice that the distance from the linkage pin hole to the center of the ball (center of rotation) will be longer on ours. Kind of like moving your fingers up the pencil.
I hope this helps...Thanks, Dave

jeffny09 · 12-01-2009, 09:14 PM

i think this product is seriously amazing -first short throw shifter and am very happy with it-dont miss out-dont question it-dam he gaurentees his product or money back-trust me

tom692010 · 12-02-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barton Industries

Here is an example that might help. Squezee a pencil right in the middle of the pencil with you left thumb and index finger, Move the top of the pencil with you right hand and you will notice if you move the top of the pencil in any direction, the bottom of the pencil will move the same distance but in the opposite direction. Now do the same thing but move your left thumb and index finger up the pencil. You will notice that when you move the top of the pencil, the bottom will move alot further then what you moved the top.
By placing the spherical bearing further up the shaft it accomplishes the same principal. I think your looking at the over all length instead of the length from the point of rotation. Compare our shifter to the factory one and you will notice that the distance from the linkage pin hole to the center of the ball (center of rotation) will be longer on ours. Kind of like moving your fingers up the pencil.
I hope this helps...Thanks, Dave

Thanks,that was very helpful. I fix things for a living,not engineer them.

Barton Industries · 12-02-2009, 06:30 PM

Glad to help

11flat · 12-03-2009, 07:53 PM

I put my Barton short throw in today!!! WOW This thing is awesome!! Short, fast, beautifully built.
I have to admit i was a little skeptical at first for $200,

but thought what do i have to loose with the guarantee. I'm so glad i got this. A buddy of mine has the "H" (dont wanna get in trouble) and his rattles like crazy.. NOT MINE!!!!
He might even get one now LOL... Thanks for the Awesome shifter!!!

rauhaus camaro · 12-03-2009, 10:00 PM

Hi Dave:

I installed your short throw shifter shortly after I spoke with you this afternoon. Thanks for sending me out another billet knob! I appreciate the fast response and customer service. Instead of the knob, I went ahead and installed the shifter kit using the pistol grip. Installation took me approximately 1 hour. Your instructions were very good and the installation went smooth without a glitch. I do recommend moving the heat shield for better access purposes. Without reservation, I honestly believe that your shifter design/CNC work is without doubt the best on the market. I absolutely love the shifter! By comparision, having previously driven a couple of other Camaros with Hurst Shifters installed, the Barton Shifter is hands-down superior in overall engineering, noise reduction and performance. I love how positive it goes into the gates. Very quick and easy throw from 1st to second. The throw from 2nd to 3rd is flawless. I like the pistol grips design's ergonomic feel, especially the thumb slot on the top. I set the grip approximately 5 degress clockwise off axis for my shifts from 2nd to 3rd. Perfect!

To all of the Camaro 5 people out there - By far, the single best investment that I have made to date so far on my Camaro has been the Barton Industries Quick Shifter. You have to test drive one to appreciate the high quality engineering/design of this shifter, its prowess in performance and just great mechanics. It's quiet and just a sensational piece of work! Two Thumbs Way Up to Barton!

Alfieboy · 12-03-2009, 10:03 PM

Man rain-rain-rain wish I had a garage to install mine :(..

BTW the service from Barton is AWESOME!..

TOP NOTCH
lol
anybody with a garage in Richmond..LOl

mtcwby · 12-03-2009, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barton Industries

Here is an example that might help. Squezee a pencil right in the middle of the pencil with you left thumb and index finger, Move the top of the pencil with you right hand and you will notice if you move the top of the pencil in any direction, the bottom of the pencil will move the same distance but in the opposite direction. Now do the same thing but move your left thumb and index finger up the pencil. You will notice that when you move the top of the pencil, the bottom will move alot further then what you moved the top.
By placing the spherical bearing further up the shaft it accomplishes the same principal. I think your looking at the over all length instead of the length from the point of rotation. Compare our shifter to the factory one and you will notice that the distance from the linkage pin hole to the center of the ball (center of rotation) will be longer on ours. Kind of like moving your fingers up the pencil.
I hope this helps...Thanks, Dave

Question for Dave: what is the distance from center of pivot point to the center of the linkage pin on your short throw shifter, and what is the same distance on the stock shifter? Is this distance adjustable and if so, what are the other measurements?
Thanks

12-01-2009, 09:14 PM	#36
jeffny09 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new york Posts: 5,618	i think this product is seriously amazing -first short throw shifter and am very happy with it-dont miss out-dont question it-dam he gaurentees his product or money back-trust me __________________ top 10 reason why real men drive stick. 10. A manual transmission is the ultimate in control 9. You can use automotive jargon and not sound like a total tool 8. You can't spell "manual" without "man" 7. Manual transmissions prove you can do more than one thing at a time 6. You can't drift in an auto 5. You can't pull fancy moves in an automatic 4. You get better fuel economy with a stick 3. You’ll never look like a chump if you can drive stick 2. Manual transmission cars are faster 1. Women like a guy who is good with his hands.

12-03-2009, 10:03 PM	#41
Alfieboy Madman Drives: 2017 1SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: RICHMOND VA Posts: 1,405 View My Garage	Man rain-rain-rain wish I had a garage to install mine :(.. BTW the service from Barton is AWESOME!.. TOP NOTCH lol anybody with a garage in Richmond..LOl Last edited by Alfieboy; 12-03-2009 at 10:03 PM. Reason: misssing

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11-29-2009, 07:12 PM	#29
Barton Industries Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cortland NY Posts: 437	PM sent

11-30-2009, 06:44 PM	#31
Alfieboy Madman Drives: 2017 1SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: RICHMOND VA Posts: 1,405 View My Garage	Man..I just got mine.. Its raining hard.. and gonna need a nice day to install..but quality of pieces is awesome in this kit!

11-30-2009, 07:23 PM	#32
Barton Industries Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cortland NY Posts: 437	Alfieboy- Thanks! MORE SHIFTERS COMING Dec 14th

12-01-2009, 05:08 PM	#33
Barton Industries Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cortland NY Posts: 437	Still have a couple left from the first run

12-01-2009, 09:08 PM	#35
Barton Industries Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cortland NY Posts: 437	Here is an example that might help. Squezee a pencil right in the middle of the pencil with you left thumb and index finger, Move the top of the pencil with you right hand and you will notice if you move the top of the pencil in any direction, the bottom of the pencil will move the same distance but in the opposite direction. Now do the same thing but move your left thumb and index finger up the pencil. You will notice that when you move the top of the pencil, the bottom will move alot further then what you moved the top. By placing the spherical bearing further up the shaft it accomplishes the same principal. I think your looking at the over all length instead of the length from the point of rotation. Compare our shifter to the factory one and you will notice that the distance from the linkage pin hole to the center of the ball (center of rotation) will be longer on ours. Kind of like moving your fingers up the pencil. I hope this helps...Thanks, Dave

12-02-2009, 06:30 PM	#38
Barton Industries Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cortland NY Posts: 437	Glad to help

12-03-2009, 07:53 PM	#39
11flat Drives: 2010 camaro ss/rs m6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: moreno valley, ca Posts: 117	I put my Barton short throw in today!!! WOW This thing is awesome!! Short, fast, beautifully built. I have to admit i was a little skeptical at first for $200, but thought what do i have to loose with the guarantee. I'm so glad i got this. A buddy of mine has the "H" (dont wanna get in trouble) and his rattles like crazy.. NOT MINE!!!! He might even get one now LOL... Thanks for the Awesome shifter!!!

12-03-2009, 10:00 PM	#40
rauhaus camaro SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS with LS3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 57	Hi Dave: I installed your short throw shifter shortly after I spoke with you this afternoon. Thanks for sending me out another billet knob! I appreciate the fast response and customer service. Instead of the knob, I went ahead and installed the shifter kit using the pistol grip. Installation took me approximately 1 hour. Your instructions were very good and the installation went smooth without a glitch. I do recommend moving the heat shield for better access purposes. Without reservation, I honestly believe that your shifter design/CNC work is without doubt the best on the market. I absolutely love the shifter! By comparision, having previously driven a couple of other Camaros with Hurst Shifters installed, the Barton Shifter is hands-down superior in overall engineering, noise reduction and performance. I love how positive it goes into the gates. Very quick and easy throw from 1st to second. The throw from 2nd to 3rd is flawless. I like the pistol grips design's ergonomic feel, especially the thumb slot on the top. I set the grip approximately 5 degress clockwise off axis for my shifts from 2nd to 3rd. Perfect! To all of the Camaro 5 people out there - By far, the single best investment that I have made to date so far on my Camaro has been the Barton Industries Quick Shifter. You have to test drive one to appreciate the high quality engineering/design of this shifter, its prowess in performance and just great mechanics. It's quiet and just a sensational piece of work! Two Thumbs Way Up to Barton!