whats this mean? 1st-to-4th skip-shift to deal with when you walk it from a stop - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

perfxn · 03-24-2009, 02:40 PM

you have an obnoxious 1st-to-4th skip-shift to deal with when you walk it from a stop? Edmunds. Is this a problem or normal thing? i apologize for my ignorance. and thanks for those who respond

*radz28* · 03-24-2009, 02:44 PM

There's a solenoid the PCM controls that physically blocks the driver from shifting from 1st into second and 3rd under light load conditions. This means unless you are on the throttle less than a certain percentage, you can only shift from 1st to 4th. I believe it was only active the first time you left from a dead stop and only reactivated after coming to another complete stop, but don't recall exactly. I dealt with it on my LT1 for a couple weeks until I got the eliminator kit. I think it was less than either 1/4 or 1/3 throttle opening. You should be able to tune it out and there may still be eliminator kits out there that will work.

BTW - there's no ignorant question

2Scoops · 03-24-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by radz282003

There's a solenoid the PCM controls that physically blocks the driver from shifting from 1st into second and 3rd under light load conditions. This means unless you are on the throttle less than a certain percentage, you can only shift from 1st to 4th. I believe it was only active the first time you left from a dead stop and only reactivated after coming to another complete stop, but don't recall exactly. I dealt with it on my LT1 for a couple weeks until I got the eliminator kit. I think it was less than either 1/4 or 1/3 throttle opening. You should be able to tune it out and there may still be eliminator kits out there that will work.

BTW - there's no ignorant question

One of the first things I get rid of....

PQ · 03-24-2009, 02:50 PM

Thanx rads, I didn't know either. I got the Auto so I just looked over it.

*radz28* · 03-24-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Scoops

One of the first things I get rid of....

It's almost just flat-out silly to deal with. I'd like to see if the eliminator kits are out there though for these 6060s. Either way, I'm sure a quick tune will get rid of it; you might as well, because that speed limiter needs to go bye-bye too, LOL (after getting more suitable tires...)

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Originally Posted by irpq11

Thanx rads, I didn't know either. I got the Auto so I just looked over it.

You know, with six-speeds, that auto' looks really great in my eyes. If there is any performance disparity between the auto' and stick I think another tune with shift speed, firmness, and pressure along with some Torque Management manipulation will work wonders. It sounds like it works for the G8 boys.

perfxn · 03-24-2009, 03:01 PM

thanks for the info! by ignrance i was talking about the lack of knowlegde in that area, i also agree about the no bad question thing.

perfxn · 03-24-2009, 03:02 PM

what is the point of this system?

CamaroSSforme · 03-24-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by perfxn

what is the point of this system?

To make you ask questions

(it just had to be said)

zebra · 03-24-2009, 03:04 PM

it avoids the gas guzzler tax

ps - this has been discussed in great detail in a few threads around here.
for those who are new - there's a

on the top-right that has proven very useful

mousemotor · 03-24-2009, 03:32 PM

my 2000 Z-28 had this skip shift, bought the slp skip shift eliminator, easy install, no more 1st to 4th.

Nimzoblanca · 03-24-2009, 03:46 PM

Save $20. Instead of the skip-shift eliminator, get a resistor from Radio Shack. $1 for a pack of 5 (I still have 4 available!). Jack up car. Crawl under. Remove skip-shift solenoid connector. Insert Radio Shack resistor in each hole of connector. Seal it up with black electrician tape. Use tie-wrap to secure loose wire.

Problem solved.

Kelster · 03-24-2009, 04:30 PM

How many ohms?

*Mindz* · 03-24-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by radz282003

(after getting more suitable tires...)

Aren't stocks P-zeros from Pirelli?

Nimzoblanca · 03-24-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelster

How many ohms?

I'll have to check when I get home. The remaining 4 resistors are in my garage. I guess that means I need to buy 4 more six-speeds!

03-24-2009, 02:40 PM	#1
perfxn Drives: 2SS RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: portland, OR Posts: 305	whats this mean? 1st-to-4th skip-shift to deal with when you walk it from a stop you have an obnoxious 1st-to-4th skip-shift to deal with when you walk it from a stop? Edmunds. Is this a problem or normal thing? i apologize for my ignorance. and thanks for those who respond

03-24-2009, 02:44 PM	#2
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	There's a solenoid the PCM controls that physically blocks the driver from shifting from 1st into second and 3rd under light load conditions. This means unless you are on the throttle less than a certain percentage, you can only shift from 1st to 4th. I believe it was only active the first time you left from a dead stop and only reactivated after coming to another complete stop, but don't recall exactly. I dealt with it on my LT1 for a couple weeks until I got the eliminator kit. I think it was less than either 1/4 or 1/3 throttle opening. You should be able to tune it out and there may still be eliminator kits out there that will work. BTW - there's no ignorant question __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

03-24-2009, 02:50 PM	#4
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Thanx rads, I didn't know either. I got the Auto so I just looked over it. __________________

03-24-2009, 03:04 PM	#9
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	it avoids the gas guzzler tax ps - this has been discussed in great detail in a few threads around here. for those who are new - there's a on the top-right that has proven very useful __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

03-24-2009, 03:46 PM	#11
Nimzoblanca Drives: 2006 Pontiac GTO M6 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 11	Save $20. Instead of the skip-shift eliminator, get a resistor from Radio Shack. $1 for a pack of 5 (I still have 4 available!). Jack up car. Crawl under. Remove skip-shift solenoid connector. Insert Radio Shack resistor in each hole of connector. Seal it up with black electrician tape. Use tie-wrap to secure loose wire. Problem solved. __________________ Current toy: 2006 GTO, 6M, Quick Silver exterior, black interior, 17" wheels. Modifications: Kooks 1 3/4" coated LT headers SLP Loudmouth II catback GMM Street w/ LSS Volant intake SLP 455 Bobcat tune SAP grills Elite Engineering Catch Can CAGS bypass (Radio Shack resistor) Previous toys: 2001 Trans Am convertible, WS6, A4. 1967 Corvette Coupe, 427/435 HP, 4-spd, 4.11 rear, factory original tri-carbs. 1979 Corvette, L82, 4-spd, 3.70 rear.

03-24-2009, 03:01 PM	#6
perfxn Drives: 2SS RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: portland, OR Posts: 305	thanks for the info! by ignrance i was talking about the lack of knowlegde in that area, i also agree about the no bad question thing.

03-24-2009, 03:02 PM	#7
perfxn Drives: 2SS RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: portland, OR Posts: 305	what is the point of this system?

03-24-2009, 03:32 PM	#10
mousemotor Drives: 2010 camaro ss,pontiac G6 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: greensboro,pa Posts: 103	my 2000 Z-28 had this skip shift, bought the slp skip shift eliminator, easy install, no more 1st to 4th.

03-24-2009, 04:30 PM	#12
Kelster Drives: Many Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N.E. Colorado Posts: 57	How many ohms? __________________ "Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others.” Ayn Rand

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