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11syn3rgy · 02-12-2015, 10:17 PM

Hey guys,

I'm wondering what fuel pump options I have if I want to run E85? I'm trying to hang tight for the new Squash returnless pump that is "supposed" to be released soon, but I'm beginning to think it might be overkill for my set up. You can see my mods in the signature below. I will very likely be done modifying the engine after E85. I need/want this car to last. Please give me your opinions and what other options I have without breaking the bank account. I just can't justify spending $2K to get 30-40 rwhp from E85. Especially if I'm not going to throw any more boost at it.

Thoughts. Thanks!

11syn3rgy · 02-12-2015, 10:18 PM

By the way, I'm not sure that I want to run meth, either. I've heard that meth eats away at the Teflon coating on the Eaton rotors? Plus, I don't want to always refill little tanks all of the time.

IBM camaro · 02-12-2015, 11:07 PM

Seems like you don't wanna do meth I wouldn't if you have that mind set already, I run e85 on my LLT with a tune and it works fine with no I'll effects picked up a good deal of power NA

11syn3rgy · 02-13-2015, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by IBM camaro

Seems like you don't wanna do meth I wouldn't if you have that mind set already, I run e85 on my LLT with a tune and it works fine with no I'll effects picked up a good deal of power NA

What pump are you running?

newagemuscle · 02-13-2015, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 11syn3rgy

Hey guys,

I'm wondering what fuel pump options I have if I want to run E85? I'm trying to hang tight for the new Squash returnless pump that is "supposed" to be released soon, but I'm beginning to think it might be overkill for my set up. You can see my mods in the signature below. I will very likely be done modifying the engine after E85. I need/want this car to last. Please give me your opinions and what other options I have without breaking the bank account. I just can't justify spending $2K to get 30-40 rwhp from E85. Especially if I'm not going to throw any more boost at it.

Thoughts. Thanks!

I have the exact same question... I am running a similar setup to you except I will be using the 3.6 pulley. I'm trying to get a game plan before spring so I have been lurking on a lot of these types of threads.

11syn3rgy · 02-13-2015, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by newagemuscle

I have the exact same question... I am running a similar setup to you except I will be using the 3.6 pulley. I'm trying to get a game plan before spring so I have been lurking on a lot of these types of threads.

Glad I'm not the only one. I really like Squash and Andy seems like a great guy, but I'm losing hope that his returnless pump will ever be released. And to be honest, I'm getting tired of going over the options in my head. The Squash return-style system is great but it's expensive and seems like overkill for 500-550 rwhp. There has to be other options out there for us "low HP" guys.

fif_gen_powa · 02-13-2015, 06:43 AM

Wait you want to switch to e85 but not to make more power? Why even bother if you hp goals can be done on pump gas easily?

11syn3rgy · 02-13-2015, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jdubzzz44

Wait you want to switch to e85 but not to make more power? Why even bother if you hp goals can be done on pump gas easily?

I want to switch to E85 and get the extra 40 rwhp AND the security of knowing I have plenty of octane for my tuner to increase my timing. Plus, the cooling effect of ethanol. I'm tapped out right now and I need a little more power to help get me into the 10's.

NVRENUF1320 · 02-13-2015, 08:29 AM

Go Squash and be done, even return style is not that pricey considering you will be good for nearly ANY future goals, as we all know you can NEVER have enough power!

The return style system can be installed in less than 5 hours

11syn3rgy · 02-13-2015, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NVRENUF1320

Go Squash and be done, even return style is not that pricey considering you will be good for nearly ANY future goals, as we all know you can NEVER have enough power!

The return style system can be installed in less than 5 hours

Yeah, I know. You're probably right but I wanted to see if there were any other (good) options? If I was going to keep throwing boost at the motor or do a cam upgrade it would be a no-brainer. Just keeping all of my options open before I spend $2K on something that could be overkill in my situation.

NVRENUF1320 · 02-13-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 11syn3rgy

Yeah, I know. You're probably right but I wanted to see if there were any other (good) options? If I was going to keep throwing boost at the motor or do a cam upgrade it would be a no-brainer. Just keeping all of my options open before I spend $2K on something that could be overkill in my situation.

Shouldnt cost you anywhere near 2K.

Plenty of options out there, ADM, Aero, Fore...
i am going with personal experience and results on two personal cars and multiple customer cars.
Another HUGE deciding factor in products we support is customer service... Andy by far is one of the best when it comes to that and stands firmly behind his product.

11syn3rgy · 02-13-2015, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NVRENUF1320

Shouldnt cost you anywhere near 2K.

Plenty of options out there, ADM, Aero, Fore...
i am going with personal experience and results on two personal cars and multiple customer cars.
Another HUGE deciding factor in products we support is customer service... Andy by far is one of the best when it comes to that and stands firmly behind his product.

I like Andy as well, but it will easily cost over $2K for his return-style dual pump. Parts alone are $1900 (plus install) and that's not even including the DSX flex fuel sensor. This is exactly why I'm questioning this route.

Would I be better off installing a custom torque converter and just leaving well enough alone? My car is running perfectly but I like the benefits of E85. Ugh!

NVRENUF1320 · 02-13-2015, 09:11 AM

Pumps and Harness is $1,000.
1600 for non PTFE and 1800 for PTFE lines.
using stock hardlines and stock rails except where plumbing is needed to Regulator

11syn3rgy · 02-13-2015, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NVRENUF1320

Pumps and Harness is $1,000.
1600 for non PTFE and 1800 for PTFE lines.
using stock hardlines and stock rails except where plumbing is needed to Regulator

How come everyone seems to do the PTFE lines? What do they even do? Sorry for my ignorance. Will the stock lines hold up to E85? Thanks!

02-12-2015, 10:17 PM	#1
11syn3rgy JT Synergy RS/2SS Drives: 2011 Camaro RS/2SS (L99) Synergy Join Date: May 2013 Location: Hager City, WI Posts: 697	E85 fuel pump options Hey guys, I'm wondering what fuel pump options I have if I want to run E85? I'm trying to hang tight for the new Squash returnless pump that is "supposed" to be released soon, but I'm beginning to think it might be overkill for my set up. You can see my mods in the signature below. I will very likely be done modifying the engine after E85. I need/want this car to last. Please give me your opinions and what other options I have without breaking the bank account. I just can't justify spending $2K to get 30-40 rwhp from E85. Especially if I'm not going to throw any more boost at it. Thoughts. Thanks! __________________ Magnacharged L99, 3.4 pulley, 9.5 psi, CAI Inc cold air intake, ID-850's, ZL1 pump with ADM FPCM, MT 305/45R18 DR's, 17x4.5 Race Star front skinnies, Stainless Power LT 1 7/8 headers & off-road pipes, BMR rear suspension goodies, JRE Super tensioner, JRE race scoop, Borla S-type and tuned by Jannetty. 11.08 at 124.5 mph with a 1.62 60' is my PB to date.

02-12-2015, 10:18 PM	#2
11syn3rgy JT Synergy RS/2SS Drives: 2011 Camaro RS/2SS (L99) Synergy Join Date: May 2013 Location: Hager City, WI Posts: 697	By the way, I'm not sure that I want to run meth, either. I've heard that meth eats away at the Teflon coating on the Eaton rotors? Plus, I don't want to always refill little tanks all of the time. __________________ Magnacharged L99, 3.4 pulley, 9.5 psi, CAI Inc cold air intake, ID-850's, ZL1 pump with ADM FPCM, MT 305/45R18 DR's, 17x4.5 Race Star front skinnies, Stainless Power LT 1 7/8 headers & off-road pipes, BMR rear suspension goodies, JRE Super tensioner, JRE race scoop, Borla S-type and tuned by Jannetty. 11.08 at 124.5 mph with a 1.62 60' is my PB to date.

02-13-2015, 06:43 AM	#7
fif_gen_powa Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,525	Wait you want to switch to e85 but not to make more power? Why even bother if you hp goals can be done on pump gas easily? __________________ 388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400 8.3@164 https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/

02-12-2015, 11:07 PM	#3
IBM camaro Texas HT5 Drives: IBM Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tx Posts: 1,335	Seems like you don't wanna do meth I wouldn't if you have that mind set already, I run e85 on my LLT with a tune and it works fine with no I'll effects picked up a good deal of power NA

02-13-2015, 08:29 AM	#9
NVRENUF1320 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Synergy Green 1xxxrwhp Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: All Over US Posts: 366	Go Squash and be done, even return style is not that pricey considering you will be good for nearly ANY future goals, as we all know you can NEVER have enough power! The return style system can be installed in less than 5 hours

02-13-2015, 09:11 AM	#13
NVRENUF1320 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Synergy Green 1xxxrwhp Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: All Over US Posts: 366	Pumps and Harness is $1,000. 1600 for non PTFE and 1800 for PTFE lines. using stock hardlines and stock rails except where plumbing is needed to Regulator