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Hellfighter · 10-09-2015, 07:23 PM

Holy Moly i wonder if any of you guys seen this, made me laugh and cry at same time at this poor car :(.

https://youtu.be/byO2CVZA3fQ

christianchevell · 10-10-2015, 08:40 AM

wow what a screwed up track ...lol up hill to a pit best suited to slow down a run away semi. lol

2013 ZL1 #7860 · 10-10-2015, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by christianchevell

wow what a screwed up track ...lol up hill to a pit best suited to slow down a run away semi. lol

Screwed up track? You cant be serious?

191 mph "test hit" should have used the parachutes...

Tenring · 10-10-2015, 09:29 AM

Trob85 · 10-10-2015, 10:03 AM

There's nothing wrong with the track it's actually a good design with plenty of distance to stop, but not enough brake on the car. The chute wouldn't have done anything to stop that car in time, you have to be up speed and accelerating to have a chute deploy properly and him having fuel issues and bucking the entire pass there's no way it would have been as effective as it normally is.

X-rated · 10-10-2015, 10:22 AM

Really???? And you are obviously a drag race expert! Parachutes are on the car for a reason, nothing but pilot error on this one, if he'd pulled them any time he would not have been in the sand. Chutes work best if deployed under power but they still work pretty damn good if not , especially at 190 mph.

Ragnar · 10-10-2015, 10:47 AM

I guess eating rocks is better than smashing into a wall. So he didn't realize that he was going that fast = driver error! He seemed to have a good attitude about it, considering what happened.

Red2014SS · 10-10-2015, 10:55 AM

On one hand, they probably got sand in the engine.... which sucks.
On the other hand... they own a car that does 190mph in the 1/4!!! Life is good for them.

They'll be ok.

CFD · 10-10-2015, 11:03 AM

Shit happens that's why the pit is there. Years ago a friend of mine went off the end of a track on his top fuel Harley, we buried him. No pits back then.

motorhead · 10-10-2015, 11:10 AM

I'm impressed that he still did 190 with how poorlyrics the car was running. Not really understanding how he ended up in the gravel trap though.

CFD · 10-10-2015, 11:15 AM

At those speeds things happen real fast.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 10-10-2015, 11:36 AM

This was pure driver error. It happens...

There is some truth in being under power accelerating when deploying the chute.

I can show several videos where the driver lifted off the gas, and even started braking as the chute deployed. Why do we want to be under power, for weight transfer. The chute deploying is quite often violent. It has set off OnStar in my car... deploying it at 217 mph.

As for the chute helping in this case or not I can deploy my chute at 60 mph and it will substantially effect the speed of the car. There are multiple types of chutes out there with different deployment methods, but most all of them have drogue chutes to pull and deploy the main chute. The drogue chute is accompanied by a big spring to launch the drogue into the air stream. This pulls the main chute out allowing it to fill with air and slow the car. There are also air/nitrogen (gas) driven chute launchers.

Technology and safety considerations are driving the technology in this area as well. I will be installing a MOTEC dash in my car, that has accelerometers which can be tied into a solenoid and if the car gets sideways as in a sudden unexpected movement, the chute will automatically deploy assisting in keeping the car straight and slowing. Some will say they want full control, but at well in excess of 200 mph things like computers can save a life, by responding way faster than any human can... Better to give up a bad pass even if I don't make the final decision than lose the car or worse.

motorhead · 10-10-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CFD

At those speeds things happen real fast.

Yeah, I wasn't commending him. Just looking for what happen to put him there. Breaks fail, chute not open?

CFD · 10-10-2015, 11:48 AM

Any of the above, mechanical error, driver error or very possibly a combination of both. If something failed such as the chute or brakes by the time the driver reacts it may be to late.

10-10-2015, 08:40 AM	#2
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,588 View My Garage	wow what a screwed up track ...lol up hill to a pit best suited to slow down a run away semi. lol __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

10-10-2015, 10:03 AM	#5
Trob85 Svt lol Drives: 2011 ss inferno orange blown Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Topeka Posts: 2,312	There's nothing wrong with the track it's actually a good design with plenty of distance to stop, but not enough brake on the car. The chute wouldn't have done anything to stop that car in time, you have to be up speed and accelerating to have a chute deploy properly and him having fuel issues and bucking the entire pass there's no way it would have been as effective as it normally is. __________________ plasti dip is not a mod.......and a cold air intake doesn't make you fast!

10-10-2015, 10:55 AM	#8
Red2014SS Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,421	On one hand, they probably got sand in the engine.... which sucks. On the other hand... they own a car that does 190mph in the 1/4!!! Life is good for them. They'll be ok. __________________ 2014 2SS/RS, L99, SW LTH w/HF Cats, GMPP Ex. Z/28 CAI, FR41s in PVD Black Chrome, Recaros, Pfadt Sway 377hp, 383tq 12.739@110.44 MPH

10-10-2015, 11:36 AM	#12
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,476	This was pure driver error. It happens... There is some truth in being under power accelerating when deploying the chute. I can show several videos where the driver lifted off the gas, and even started braking as the chute deployed. Why do we want to be under power, for weight transfer. The chute deploying is quite often violent. It has set off OnStar in my car... deploying it at 217 mph. As for the chute helping in this case or not I can deploy my chute at 60 mph and it will substantially effect the speed of the car. There are multiple types of chutes out there with different deployment methods, but most all of them have drogue chutes to pull and deploy the main chute. The drogue chute is accompanied by a big spring to launch the drogue into the air stream. This pulls the main chute out allowing it to fill with air and slow the car. There are also air/nitrogen (gas) driven chute launchers. Technology and safety considerations are driving the technology in this area as well. I will be installing a MOTEC dash in my car, that has accelerometers which can be tied into a solenoid and if the car gets sideways as in a sudden unexpected movement, the chute will automatically deploy assisting in keeping the car straight and slowing. Some will say they want full control, but at well in excess of 200 mph things like computers can save a life, by responding way faster than any human can... Better to give up a bad pass even if I don't make the final decision than lose the car or worse. __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

10-10-2015, 09:29 AM	#4
Tenring Drives: 2014 2SS/RS - SIM Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,188

10-10-2015, 10:22 AM	#6
X-rated Drives: 2014 2ss vert Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: great white north Posts: 59	Really???? And you are obviously a drag race expert! Parachutes are on the car for a reason, nothing but pilot error on this one, if he'd pulled them any time he would not have been in the sand. Chutes work best if deployed under power but they still work pretty damn good if not , especially at 190 mph.

10-10-2015, 10:47 AM	#7
Ragnar Destroyed by flooding Drives: Wife's car Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,673	I guess eating rocks is better than smashing into a wall. So he didn't realize that he was going that fast = driver error! He seemed to have a good attitude about it, considering what happened. __________________

10-10-2015, 11:03 AM	#9
CFD Drives: 2SS/RS L99 BLACK Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Franklin , MA Posts: 6,696	Shit happens that's why the pit is there. Years ago a friend of mine went off the end of a track on his top fuel Harley, we buried him. No pits back then.

10-10-2015, 11:10 AM	#10
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	I'm impressed that he still did 190 with how poorlyrics the car was running. Not really understanding how he ended up in the gravel trap though.

10-10-2015, 11:15 AM	#11
CFD Drives: 2SS/RS L99 BLACK Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Franklin , MA Posts: 6,696	At those speeds things happen real fast.

10-10-2015, 11:48 AM	#14
CFD Drives: 2SS/RS L99 BLACK Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Franklin , MA Posts: 6,696	Any of the above, mechanical error, driver error or very possibly a combination of both. If something failed such as the chute or brakes by the time the driver reacts it may be to late.