03-12-2012, 04:31 PM | #71 | |
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How many GT 500 folk paid a premium to own Mustang's version of "KING"...only to find out in certain environments, it ISN'T...because the BOSS is Boss...?! I'd hate to think a 200lb lighter LS7'd ZEE would roast a ZL1 "in certain environments"...and, more importantly, so do you and a whole bunch of ZL1/modded SS owners... There'll be "peace in the valley"...until THAT day arrives... |
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03-13-2012, 11:22 AM | #72 | |
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.....my mind is tinkering away with thoughts of cylinder heads, valve trains, camshafts, intake manifolds, throttle bodies etc...etc..and other technical mechanical goodies on and on and on, but my body says, ...fughedaboutit....
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03-13-2012, 12:00 PM | #73 |
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I seriously agree that Z28 should be brought back. I believe, like ZL1, that it should be nothing but functional. If Team CAMARO changes the hood from the functional ZL1-style, it should provide downforce - not just be an open vent or asthetic. I think a lot of what is in ZL1 should come over to Z28, minus LSA. It should definately be a V8, and I think a Wixom 6.2 would be great - it would be nice to offer LS7 in it, but... yeah (well - they see fit to jamb it into the CE 'Vert)... maybe a little baby cam to pump the power up another 10%; that may not be too hard. It definately needs to blow the Supervisor out of the water, and should probably keep the TR6060 from SS and SS's rear, but maybe with some 3.73s. No slushbox. I really like the 1LE option-idea. I really don't see GM eliminating radios or AC, but maybe a rear seat-delete. STB from ZL1 or the 'Vert and we're good.
JMVHO.
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03-19-2012, 10:48 AM | #74 |
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Heres an article on a vairety of camshafts and their effects one could expect to see up and down the scale. After all, for starters, it's a camshaft the LS3 seriously needs...
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...n/viewall.html The next article is a bit dated, but shows real world numbers when swapping out the stock LS3 cam for a streetable upgrade. The numbers are for just the cam swap alone...imagine if one were to upgrade the intake plenum, throttle body, and MAF to compatible range around 102 MM's, increase the injector volume, and use tuned exhaust manifolds (round tube).... http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ral/index.html
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03-20-2012, 08:55 PM | #75 |
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What's the fascination with the Z? It's just a Camaro with different options and badging. Just make a nice Camaro and call it a ... Camaro..
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03-20-2012, 09:00 PM | #76 | |
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For me it is the heritage of the name plate... "As Trans Am titles in 1968 and '69 showed, the Z28 was a road-racer first, a street machine second. Drivers who understood its bare-knuckle character bought 7,199 of them for '68, and sales nearly tripled for the 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 -- a record that would stand until 1978" A brief read about it... http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...camaro-z28.htm |
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03-20-2012, 09:20 PM | #77 |
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You know, if you "live" with a 1LE and 24 months later a Z28 is produced.... I know how fast you'd be in line (assuming you were satisfied with the redesign)..... The 1LE just isn't recognizable in meaningful terms -- I'd wait if I had time. Hard choices if they don't give you a heads up on Gen6 plans.
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03-20-2012, 09:26 PM | #78 | |
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You know now that I think about it a car is "just" transportation why not get a small commuter car? Think of the gas savings. |
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03-20-2012, 09:45 PM | #79 |
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...sigh...it's about specifiic ages of the consumer, generations of the car itself, where one grew up at what what point with what product and what they did with it or what their impressions were about it....many different levels of input and perspective, levels of performance, etc....it's hard to tie it all together so that youngsters can know or feel what oldsters do....right Mr. Florida?<inside joke about FLA>...seriously though, it transends many ages and philosophies,beliefs about what it is, what it means, and what it should be.
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03-21-2012, 03:18 PM | #80 | |
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Damn we are all becoming philosophers because we don't have the actual car here to expound on. You gotta drive something. Might as well be a kick ash car that when you stomp it, it delivers. Oh, Does the name Pavlov ring a bell? |
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03-21-2012, 07:49 PM | #81 | |
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03-21-2012, 08:05 PM | #82 |
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I can relate...ummmm about the car.
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03-21-2012, 09:23 PM | #83 |
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I never cared for the big block muscle cars, I always preferred the small block Trans Am cars. Z28, Firebird TransAm, AAR Cuda, Challenger T/A, Boss 302, Javelin. These all had high revving small blocks, awesome machines.
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03-21-2012, 09:38 PM | #84 |
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I believe the Trans Am was a BB until 1979 when they offered a 301 with the 400 & 403. . The Formula could be had in a SB or a BB
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