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midgard · 09-21-2010, 05:24 PM

Lets not confuse max power and torque with average bandwidth power and torque. For the same max power and torque....the KB's and Maggies dominate the procharger.

Also, for the same max power and torque.....the KBs and Maggies dominate the 60' vs the procharger.....so wheel spin is obviously not as big of an issue has needing power down low with the heavy camaro. Those results are bible across this board.

east TX Muscle cars · 09-21-2010, 05:41 PM

dont always look at PEAK #s either! over the curve is what wins races!

old motorhead · 09-21-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by midgard

Lets not confuse max power and torque with average bandwidth power and torque. For the same max power and torque....the KB's and Maggies dominate the procharger.

Also, for the same max power and torque.....the KBs and Maggies dominate the 60' vs the procharger.....so wheel spin is obviously not as big of an issue has needing power down low with the heavy camaro. Those results are bible across this board.

Amen.....and there's a little known feature included in just about every supercharged ride. The accelerator pedal. It doesn't have to be slammed to the floor forcing tires to go up in smoke. But, if you're inclined to hook all that down low power, it can be done. With the P/D blower, you have the option to use it however you feel is appropriate. With a centri, you have no option because it's just not there

I like options

midgard · 09-21-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by east TX Muscle cars

dont always look at PEAK #s either! over the curve is what wins races!

Thats what I was trying to say with my "across the bandwidth" comment...I agree.

Thats also what makes the KB so good.....I was just trying to comment that the Peak numbers are deceiving!

dmax86 · 09-21-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tony1

That's why I went with the Vortech ... I didn't want 400-500whtq at 2500 RPM's.. I like a linear curve that goes up with RPM's .. not a flat line.

+1

seanm@stillen · 09-21-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dmax86

+1

See that is why it is great to have options. I think a centrifugal feels like a larger displacement engine. Its very linear. Some people like that, some people don't like it.

Area under the curve is important. Gear ratios, gearing, shift points all play into how you use that area under the curve.

dmax86 · 09-21-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by seanm@stillen

See that is why it is great to have options. I think a centrifugal feels like a larger displacement engine. Its very linear. Some people like that, some people don't like it.

Area under the curve is important. Gear ratios, gearing, shift points all play into how you use that area under the curve.

Thats what i like!! "big-block feel" The SMOOTH power always pulling you back more and more instead of a sometimes violent acceleration and traction loss of the top mounts. its also easy to drive at low rpms, drive near stock

Whipple Charged · 09-21-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead

Amen.....and there's a little known feature included in just about every supercharged ride. The accelerator pedal. It doesn't have to be slammed to the floor forcing tires to go up in smoke. But, if you're inclined to hook all that down low power, it can be done. With the P/D blower, you have the option to use it however you feel is appropriate. With a centri, you have no option because it's just not there

I like options

I read something about that now, its a new option

Always nice to have 50% throttle left while others are at WOT

axis · 09-22-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Whipple Charged

I read something about that now, its a new option

Always nice to have 50% throttle left while others are at WOT

Yeah but it takes that much more skill to ride the line between max traction and up in smoke.

maxpower5 · 09-22-2010, 03:41 PM

i have heard good things about the edelbrock e-force s/c. also, like the way it looks.

old motorhead · 09-22-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by axis

Yeah but it takes that much more skill to ride the line between max traction and up in smoke.

Practice..practice..practice. It's a blast

That's just one more excuse to drive it like you stole it. You must explore the limits....repeatedly

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Team STILLEN · 09-22-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by maxpower5

i have heard good things about the edelbrock e-force s/c. also, like the way it looks.

The E-Force uses an Eaton TVS positive displacement supercharger. We have installed quiet a few of them here at STILLEN, and the customers really seem to like them.

firehead · 04-17-2017, 03:08 PM

quick question, for a road course car, would a procharger or a top mount be better? I've been doing a lot of research and I have yet to come across anything that says one is better than the other for a road course.

racesloth · 04-18-2017, 03:46 AM

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