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Bhobbs · 06-05-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183

There wont be a 6th gen ZL-1. It was only made one in '69 and now for 5th gens. I dont see a 6th gen ZL-1 being made at all. THe 6th gen Z-28 will be held off but guaranteed to be made. I do believe there will be a 6th gen SS to add the LT-1 in. Afterwards? I see SS going away. The Z-28s purpose unless installed with an LS7 in 6th gen, will be lessened of purpose considering that if not for that engine; there wont be any competition for 5th gen Z vs 6th gen. THe 5th gen Z/28 will be the be all end all of track monster chevrolets.

That doesn't make any sense. The 1969 ZL1 powered Camaros were special order COPO cars. They only built 69 of them. The 5th gen ZL1 is not a special order car, has been built for more than one year and is not limited.

As long as Ford builds a GT500, Chevy needs the ZL1.

The LS7 is dead after the 5th gen. Any 6th gen Z/28 will be LT powered. I don't get why that is so hard to understand.

2cnd chance · 06-05-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183

There wont be a 6th gen ZL-1. It was only made one in '69 and now for 5th gens. I dont see a 6th gen ZL-1 being made at all. THe 6th gen Z-28 will be held off but guaranteed to be made. I do believe there will be a 6th gen SS to add the LT-1 in. Afterwards? I see SS going away. The Z-28s purpose unless installed with an LS7 in 6th gen, will be lessened of purpose considering that if not for that engine; there wont be any competition for 5th gen Z vs 6th gen. THe 5th gen Z/28 will be the be all end all of track monster chevrolets.

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

That doesn't make any sense. The 1969 ZL1 powered Camaros were special order COPO cars. They only built 69 of them. The 5th gen ZL1 is not a special order car, has been built for more than one year and is not limited.

As long as Ford builds a GT500, Chevy needs the ZL1.

The LS7 is dead after the 5th gen. Any 6th gen Z/28 will be LT powered. I don't get why that is so hard to understand.

It's "all" based on beating the competition and making money. There are rumors of a LT1 based 427 for the Vette. If this happens it'll be in a 6Gen Z/28.

And Bhobbs is correct as long as there is a GT500 there'll be a ZL1. Bottom line; if it sells, why would you not produce it?

Wizard1183 · 06-05-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

That doesn't make any sense. The 1969 ZL1 powered Camaros were special order COPO cars. They only built 69 of them. The 5th gen ZL1 is not a special order car, has been built for more than one year and is not limited.

As long as Ford builds a GT500, Chevy needs the ZL1.

The LS7 is dead after the 5th gen. Any 6th gen Z/28 will be LT powered. I don't get why that is so hard to understand.

So an SS and a Z/28 will both be powered by an LT-1? That makes no sense at all. Might as well call it a 1LE.

2cnd chance · 06-05-2013, 06:26 PM

LT1, LT2, LT4...

Bhobbs · 06-05-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183

So an SS and a Z/28 will both be powered by an LT-1? That makes no sense at all. Might as well call it a 1LE.

You believe the LT1 will be the only engine GM produces for all Camaro, CTS, Corvette and any other models that use the GM V8?

OldScoolCamaro · 06-05-2013, 08:35 PM

....Slash plays with Guns N Roses, give it up on the Z28 and it's relevance, it's meaning is no different than headlight redesign, tailight revisions, or models changing architecture....sorry but sometimes the mindless minutia goes overboard. Was it bolted on? Was it glued on with dual sided tape? Was it a decal?

Bhobbs · 06-05-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

....Slash plays with Guns N Roses, give it up on the Z28 and it's relevance, it's meaning is no different than headlight redesign, tailight revisions, or models changing architecture....sorry but sometimes the mindless minutia goes overboard. Was it bolted on? Was it glued on with dual sided tape? Was it a decal?

There's enough of a difference for Fbodfather to bring it up.

OldScoolCamaro · 06-05-2013, 09:07 PM

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There's enough of a difference for Fbodfather to bring it up.

The obvious. A one line statement about the / being dropped. We get it, especially those of us who were around then and endured the changes over time. Some of the trivial discussion here ranges from the sublime to the rediculous. Carry on.

james347 · 06-05-2013, 09:47 PM

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AZCamaroFan · 06-05-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

....Slash plays with Guns N Roses, give it up on the Z28 and it's relevance, it's meaning is no different than headlight redesign, tailight revisions, or models changing architecture....sorry but sometimes the mindless minutia goes overboard. Was it bolted on? Was it glued on with dual sided tape? Was it a decal?

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

The obvious. A one line statement about the / being dropped. We get it, especially those of us who were around then and endured the changes over time. Some of the trivial discussion here ranges from the sublime to the rediculous. Carry on.

Wizard1183 · 06-06-2013, 07:16 AM

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You believe the LT1 will be the only engine GM produces for all Camaro, CTS, Corvette and any other models that use the GM V8?

No I dont. but as of now, (gen V engines) its THE only engine worth installing into a camaro.

Bhobbs · 06-06-2013, 01:06 PM

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No I dont. but as of now, (gen V engines) its THE only engine worth installing into a camaro.

That's right now. The 6th gen Camaro is a couple years out and the Z/28 would be a couple years after that so GM has plenty of time to develop new engines.

Wizard1183 · 06-06-2013, 01:21 PM

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That's right now. The 6th gen Camaro is a couple years out and the Z/28 would be a couple years after that so GM has plenty of time to develop new engines.

If it looks as good or better than a 5th gen with 550 naturally aspirated HP and a track beast from hell with a price tag of $10000, Im getting me 4 or 5 of them lmao

shaffe · 01-03-2014, 04:14 PM

I hate to bring this thread back from the dead, but its cold snowy and dead at work so I am haha.

My question still has not been answered. I see everybody talking about how the 14 Z/28 gets back to the racing heritage of the 67-69 cars.

Fbod father does not really state anything about it going from Z/28 to Z28 until 1977 and mostly from then on the purists that the 3rd and 4th gen cars weren't worthy of the Z/28 badge. That I understand, but about the 70 Z?

What about the 70 Z28? It had no slash Did the badge change on purpose bc it wasn't "the same" or is the 70 car kind of like lost in the middle?

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shaffe Drives: 21 Bronco Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Carol Stream Posts: 6,024	I hate to bring this thread back from the dead, but its cold snowy and dead at work so I am haha. My question still has not been answered. I see everybody talking about how the 14 Z/28 gets back to the racing heritage of the 67-69 cars. Fbod father does not really state anything about it going from Z/28 to Z28 until 1977 and mostly from then on the purists that the 3rd and 4th gen cars weren't worthy of the Z/28 badge. That I understand, but about the 70 Z? What about the 70 Z28? It had no slash Did the badge change on purpose bc it wasn't "the same" or is the 70 car kind of like lost in the middle?