Borla Sport Exhaust v's GMPP Catback - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

JJ2010 · 04-20-2009, 03:53 PM

I just got off the phone with a guy with Borla and he gave me lots of great info.I asked him questions about the GMPP cat-back exhaust which they built verses there Cat-back Exhaust.He said there was a tremendous difference between GMPP's product and there complete Cat-back.He said the GMPP product was designed with alot more restrictions and would not make much difference in HP or Sound.Borla makes two systems for the 2010 Camaro a Sport and a Touring.He said the Sport system sounds awesome and on the dyno produced 6.2% increase in flow and get this 27 to 28HP increase.Please don't jump on me about those numbers that is what I was told.The touring is not as aggressive of a system.I was all set to buy the GMPP Cat-back until he said it will not make much difference in HP or in Sound.His exact words was lots of people are going to waste there money buying the GMPP Cat-back system.He said that they will beable to deliver there exhaust systems the first week of May.

MrGazinya · 04-20-2009, 03:57 PM

I was under the impression that GMPP system was only axle back

But I am defiantly doing the sport system... Sounds incredible on the C6 LS3...
By the way. Buy from Summit, you can save a couple hun rather then Borla directly.
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...earchType=Make

SemperFi · 04-20-2009, 03:59 PM

Wow! Great info. And THANK YOU. Because I was also about to buy the GMPP exhaust, I figured if it was built by Borla, then it must be about the same as their products, and the GMPP parts are warranteed and such. Guess I wont be now. And if those HP numbers are legit, that is AMAZING. That would make them totally worth the cost! Again, great info and thanks!

*Milk 1027* · 04-20-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGazinya

I was under the impression that GMPP system was only axle back

But I am defiantly doing the sport system... Sounds incredible on the C6 LS3

nope.

Cat-back. look at the mod threads in my sig

Gentry78 · 04-20-2009, 03:59 PM

wow thats cool info, i didn't know the stock system was restricting that much power but i guess it would have too, to be quiet

SemperFi · 04-20-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentry78

wow thats cool info, i didn't know the stock system was restricting that much power but i guess it would have too, to be quiet

Yeah.. It seems crazy GM would sacrifice that kind of HP. We will see how these HP numbers hold up. Ive got my fingers crossed, but we'll see.

Rothnak · 04-20-2009, 04:03 PM

Wow that is really cool. It would be even more amazing to see a comparison vid of the GMPP vs. Borla exhaust setups in the coming months.

I hope you guys who get your cars soon plan on doing the dirty guinea pig work for the rest of us!

MrGazinya · 04-20-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothnak

Wow that is really cool. It would be even more amazing to see a comparison vid of the GMPP vs. Borla exhaust setups in the coming months.

I hope you guys who get your cars soon plan on doing the dirty guinea pig work for the rest of us!

I am so tempted to buy this exhaust today.... But I guess I'll wait

vladkgb · 04-20-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ2010

I just got off the phone with a guy with Borla and he gave me lots of great info.I asked him questions about the GMPP cat-back exhaust which they built verses there Cat-back Exhaust.He said there was a tremendous difference between GMPP's product and there complete Cat-back.He said the GMPP product was designed with alot more restrictions and would not make much difference in HP or Sound.Borla makes two systems for the 2010 Camaro a Sport and a Touring.He said the Sport system sounds awesome and on the dyno produced 6.2% increase in flow and get this 27 to 28HP increase.Please don't jump on me about those numbers that is what I was told.The touring is not as aggressive of a system.I was all set to buy the GMPP Cat-back until he said it will not make much difference in HP or in Sound.His exact words was lots of people are going to waste there money buying the GMPP Cat-back system.He said that they will beable to deliver there exhaust systems the first week of May.

$1500 for shiny pipes, no thanks imo. Ill wait for KOOKs to release their LT's, off road X pipe and their cat back, that will cost ~$2k but you get so much more. (ref: pontiac g8 system)

BackinBlackSS/RS · 04-20-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ2010

.He said the Sport system sounds awesome and on the dyno produced 6.2% increase in flow and get this 27 to 28HP increase.Please don't jump on me about those numbers that is what I was told..

Not jumping on you, but if anyone up here thinks there gonna get that, well
your not!!!

MerF · 04-20-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Not jumping on you, but if anyone up here thinks there gonna get that, well
your not!!!

It's not impossible. It's very unlikely but not impossible. There are vehicles with suffocating exhausts that can see large gains, but I'm not convinced the Camaro will be one of them.

I'd be willing to guess at 15 rwhp gains in a perfect world.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 04-20-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MerF

It's not impossible. It's very unlikely but not impossible. There are vehicles with suffocating exhausts that can see large gains, but I'm not convinced the Camaro will be one of them.

I'd be willing to guess at 15 rwhp gains in a perfect world.

The Tom Henry Camaro with rockers, exhaust, intake, long tubes and a tune
only gets 16 more hp with all of those mods. I would say the stock SS is
pretty darn good at least based on those numbers.

JJ2010 · 04-20-2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Not jumping on you, but if anyone up here thinks there gonna get that, well
your not!!!

That is why I said don't jump on me.I know those numbers are pretty impossible.The guy I talked to looked these numbers up on his computer and read them off of there Dyno sheet.If it could produce 15+ it will be worth the $1294.00 from summit racing.I ordered the Borla Sport Exhaust system from Summit Racing with shipping and everything it was $1306.00.The guy with Borla said the the guy that tested the Sport Exhaust couldn't shut up about how good it sounded on the SS Camaro.He also said the guy that has been testing the touring Exhaust said it was nice ,but it was to quit for him. The guy I talked to with Borla was as helpful as I have come across in along time.

mmarcum · 04-20-2009, 05:43 PM

Would there be a significant difference in horsepower gains between the Sport and the Touring models?

04-20-2009, 03:53 PM	#1
JJ2010 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Smithfield,NC Posts: 1,203	Borla Sport Exhaust v's GMPP Catback I just got off the phone with a guy with Borla and he gave me lots of great info.I asked him questions about the GMPP cat-back exhaust which they built verses there Cat-back Exhaust.He said there was a tremendous difference between GMPP's product and there complete Cat-back.He said the GMPP product was designed with alot more restrictions and would not make much difference in HP or Sound.Borla makes two systems for the 2010 Camaro a Sport and a Touring.He said the Sport system sounds awesome and on the dyno produced 6.2% increase in flow and get this 27 to 28HP increase.Please don't jump on me about those numbers that is what I was told.The touring is not as aggressive of a system.I was all set to buy the GMPP Cat-back until he said it will not make much difference in HP or in Sound.His exact words was lots of people are going to waste there money buying the GMPP Cat-back system.He said that they will beable to deliver there exhaust systems the first week of May.

04-20-2009, 03:57 PM	#2
MrGazinya Drives: Aggressive Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southampton, PA. Posts: 1,086	I was under the impression that GMPP system was only axle back But I am defiantly doing the sport system... Sounds incredible on the C6 LS3... By the way. Buy from Summit, you can save a couple hun rather then Borla directly. http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...earchType=Make __________________ Black 2SS RS LS3 Inferno Int. '17 1LE replica 20's {MODS} KOOKS LT: Borla S-Type: Roto-Fab CAI: Hurst ST.: PFADT Stage 2, Trailing arms, Tie Rods: ECS BigBlower Cam: Fast 102mm intake: Brian Tooley racing dual spring kit: TFS pushrod set: Katech C5R timing chain: Mellings high volume oil pump: ATI Balancer: Ideal performance upgraded clutch master cylinder:Tick performance upgraded slave cylinder/throwout bearing: Mantic 9000 twin disk clutch & light weight flywheel: Tuned by Doug Ring at ECS. 475RWHP/445RWTQ.Dynapack Dyno. Last edited by MrGazinya; 04-20-2009 at 04:13 PM.

04-20-2009, 03:59 PM	#3
SemperFi U.S. Marine Corps Drives: 2009 Ducati Streetfighter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Texas Posts: 407	Wow! Great info. And THANK YOU. Because I was also about to buy the GMPP exhaust, I figured if it was built by Borla, then it must be about the same as their products, and the GMPP parts are warranteed and such. Guess I wont be now. And if those HP numbers are legit, that is AMAZING. That would make them totally worth the cost! Again, great info and thanks! __________________ Texas Residents: Join the Texas social group! Semper Fi!

04-20-2009, 05:43 PM	#14
mmarcum Drives: 2010 Rally Yellow Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East TN Posts: 292	Would there be a significant difference in horsepower gains between the Sport and the Touring models? __________________ Delivered: Rally Yellow 2SS/RS (LS3) with black interior. Event code 1100 on 1/24 Event code 3000 on 3/24 Event code 3400 on 4/27 Back to event code 3000 on 5/1 Event code 3800 on 5/5 Event code 4B00 on 5/5 Event code 4200 on 5/22 Event code 6000 on 6/3! VIN# 2G1FT1EW6A9107395

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Gentry78 HOOK'EM Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,279	wow thats cool info, i didn't know the stock system was restricting that much power but i guess it would have too, to be quiet

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